Then this is a problem. I added you to the asf-cla group and you should have 
the karma to edit the wiki.
By the way you have two confluence accounts, which one did you use? Can you 
ping me on #camel tomorrow and resolve this interactively?

Thanks,
Hadrian


On Nov 10, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Eric Johnson wrote:

> Hadrian,
> As it turns out, not anyone with a signed CLA can edit the Camel wiki.
> The Apache Confluence wiki allows each community to determine who can
> edit the pages in their space.
> I went create a page listing the ideas/issues around a site update and
> was confronted with a "Permission Denied" page. My guess is that the
> Camel space either has me specifically banned or that the permissions
> are set such that the asf-cla group does not have permission to create
> pages.
> Cheers,
> Eric
> 
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just for the record. I like scalate too, it's f*** awesome s*** :).
>> Hadrian
>> 
>> On Nov 10, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Johan Edstrom wrote:
>> 
>>> I actually really liked the scalate project and writing the docs in IDEA,
>>> making a patch and tossing it in github.
>>> 
>>> Offline editing also seems really nice for when you are on planes, in 
>>> airports or hotels.
>>> Not to mention if you actually fix a bug and submit a patch you could fix 
>>> documentation in one feel swoop.
>>> 
>>> And with the possibility of editing and running Jetty locally - it was 
>>> really easy.
>>> 
>>> Just my .02, i'm one of those that like irc for the quick informal style 
>>> over forums for example,
>>> I also really like svn/git since I have tooling around versioning et al.
>>> 
>>> And yeah, making patches is "klunky" using diff and things like that.
>>> 
>>> /je
>>> On Nov 10, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 10, 2010, at 10:28 AM, James Strachan wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 10 November 2010 15:15, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday 10 November 2010 9:59:11 am James Strachan wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10 November 2010 14:51, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> For most of the people on this list, it ISN'T a big deal.   We deal 
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> svn and mvn every day.   For others, it could be.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Given 99% of all our documentation and web content is developed by
>>>>>>> committers or folks who are capable of editing text files and using
>>>>>>> git/svn, I'd rather use a system that helps the 99% be more effective.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Maybe you should just help out this one CXF person & show them how to
>>>>>>> fork & commit to github (its very easy), then you can easily pull
>>>>>>> their commits from there?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Umm..  no.   Pulling branches from github is NOT, at this point, an 
>>>>>> acceptable
>>>>>> way of getting content into an Apache product.   They would still need to
>>>>>> create a patch and attach it to  JIRA with the "grant" checkbox checked.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Whatever happens folks have to raise a JIRA and click the "grant" 
>>>>> checkbox.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I fail to see why a link to a specific commit (i.e. a link to a number
>>>>> of patches) is any less suitable than a number of patch files being
>>>>> attached in place to the JIRA. Got anything specific to back this up
>>>>> or is it just that we've not done it before?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Patch files are a total PITA for both the person contributing and the
>>>>> person applying the patch. (They usually break, get out of sync, have
>>>>> whitespace issues and frequently have the wrong path information in
>>>>> them & often have problems with new/renamed/deleted files).
>>>>> 
>>>>> If this discussion really is about being a "community issue" and
>>>>> making it easy for both folks to contribute and for committers to
>>>>> apply those contributions, I'd rather we figure out this issue of
>>>>> using links to git commits as an alternative to patch files on JIRAs -
>>>>> this could make a *massive* difference to both getting contributions
>>>>> and more effectively applying them IMHO. Helping scm-novices
>>>>> contribute to documentation (which they've never really done so far on
>>>>> Camel anyway) seems quite irrelevant in comparison.
>>>> I don't know if this is a scm-novices issues. We had contributions from 
>>>> not committers in the past.
>>>> Johan (before his commiter days) is one example, Steve Bate is another. I 
>>>> would rather ask them how likely would it be to contribute to doc if they 
>>>> had to co/edit/submit-patch, vs edit in-place wiki style.
>>>> I know they are not scm-novices.
>>>> 
>>>> I am open to any alternative that would not raise the barrier to entry for 
>>>> documentation contributors and that's acceptable to the ASF.
>>>> 
>>>> Hadrian
>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>> 
>> 
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