Hi JB I have seen the discussion that Camel Extras is going to move to Github. I thought it's done already. Have you already final descision about Camel Extras? I have seen discussion on ComDev about moving to SF but the projects will be not forced to move together to SF. As i have seen Camel prefers Github. I'm looking for instructions how to migrate the svn repo to git and I thought Camel has already finished this process.
Kindly regards Krzysztof On 31.10.2015 13:43, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > Hi Krysztof, > > camel-extras are not on github right. I've done some cleanups and upgrades. > > Regards > JB > > On 10/29/2015 08:15 PM, Krzysztof Sobkowiak wrote: >> Hi >> >> Have you already performed the migration to Github? Have you done it alone? >> I assume Infra doesn't support this process? >> >> Regards >> Krzysztof >> >> On 17.09.2015 21:00, Pontus Ullgren wrote: >>> I believe changing the package name would be a real problem for users of >>> the library. >>> >>> Not sure why we can not continue to use that package name since according >>> to the answers Raul got on the com-dev mailinglist [1] it is up to each >>> projects PMC to decide how there extras project should be handled. >>> So if the Camel PMC decided that the Camel Extras source code should be >>> hosted on github I do not see any problem to keep the package name as is. >>> >>> [1] >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201509.mbox/%3ccadmm+kcy9c6rgodshexgsrduu7jur06jwcs9yp-hc8mapm6...@mail.gmail.com%3E >>> // Pontus >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 at 13:57 Christian Müller <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm also not happy with the support/guidance from dev@community regarding >>>> this topic and +1 to move to Github now. I'm not convinced from SF. >>>> >>>> Before we are releasing our first release there, please check with the >>>> Apache trademarks first, whether you can still use the name "Camel Extra" >>>> or not. The same for the package name (it has apache and camel in it), >>>> because this project doesn't belong to Apache Extra anymore in the future, >>>> in my opinion. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Christian >>>> >>>> Am 17.09.2015 10:43 schrieb "Raul Kripalani" <[email protected]>: >>>>> Agree. From my point of view, if the Camel extras community feels >>>>> comfortable with Github, then go for it. It seems like the joint Apache >>>>> Extras effort has somewhat disintegrated anyway. >>>>> >>>>> We did our part: having a discussion there and sharing our concerns at >>>>> dev@community. So I'm happy with how we dealt with this issue. >>>>> >>>>> Let us know when it's done so we can update the links on the Apache Camel >>>>> website. >>>>> >>>>> Raúl. >>>>> On 17 Sep 2015 07:50, "Pontus Ullgren" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello again, >>>>>> >>>>>> So I tried to reach out to com-dev beginning this month[1] and it seems >>>> to >>>>>> be a dead end. >>>>>> Some answers[2] even suggest that it is up to the PMCs. >>>>>> >>>>>> So in line of the two previous votes[3] [4] I think we should go ahead >>>> and >>>>>> continue the move to github. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards >>>>>> // Pontus >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201509.mbox/%3CCABe1WL-mcFvPUmUwjLXmgLUOSSQUrhT5z7Adj2WPVS8NwSQnuA%40mail.gmail.com%3E >>>>>> [2] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201509.mbox/%3ccadmm+kcy9c6rgodshexgsrduu7jur06jwcs9yp-hc8mapm6...@mail.gmail.com%3E >>>>>> [3] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/camel-dev/201504.mbox/%3C1391078472.16070484.1428686018450.JavaMail.zimbra%40redhat.com%3E >>>>>> [4] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/camel-dev/201504.mbox/%3C301126299.246793.1429101018000.JavaMail.zimbra%40redhat.com%3E >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 19:54 Pontus Ullgren <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> While I personally think that is github is superior to what SF offers >>>>>>> (and that bitbucket is superior to github) for camel-extra I don't >>>> think >>>>>>> the choice of hosting company is that big a deal. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Camel-Extra currently uses >>>>>>> * Mailing list provided by nabble ( >>>>>>> http://camel-extra.1091541.n5.nabble.com/) >>>>>>> * Jenkins provided by cloudbees ( >>>> https://camel-extra.ci.cloudbees.com/ >>>> ) >>>>>>> * SonarQube provided by SonarQube ( >>>>>>> http://nemo.sonarqube.org/dashboard/index/564228) >>>>>>> * Jira for issues provided by Atlassian ( >>>>>>> https://camel-extra.atlassian.net/browse/CAMEX) >>>>>>> * End user component documentations are hosted on the main camel >>>> project >>>>>>> wiki >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So even back when we where on google code the only thing that it was >>>> used >>>>>>> for was to >>>>>>> provide a wiki for some project specific documentation such as >>>> release >>>>>>> notes and most important >>>>>>> the GIT repo. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So as long as the service provider provides git, a simple way of >>>> hosting >>>>>>> some documentation and >>>>>>> has a good reputation of keeping a good uptime on the service in my >>>>>>> opinion it is not that big a deal >>>>>>> where or what is hosting it. The important thing is that we get this >>>> up >>>>>>> read-write ASAP. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just my $0.02 >>>>>>> // Pontus >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 17:59 Raul Kripalani <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Rob, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think camel-extras belongs to the Apache Extras [1] umbrella... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That said, I'm not quite sure what's the point of grouping all >>>> "extras" >>>>>>>> from all projects under a common ASF umbrella – I'm assuming it's >>>> for >>>>>> ASF >>>>>>>> organisational reasons. It definitely doesn't serve a technical >>>> reason >>>>>> nor >>>>>>>> an administrative one: (a) each Extras project is more closely >>>> related >>>>>> to >>>>>>>> the parent than to all other Extras project in ASF and (b) the roles >>>> in >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> camel-extras "organisation" do show some correlation with the roles >>>> at >>>>>>>> Apache Camel, but they are not necessarily tied together, i.e. >>>> there's >>>>>> no >>>>>>>> requirement that a committer in camel-extras has to be a committer >>>> in >>>>>>>> Apache Camel, right? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [1] https://community.apache.org/apache-extras/faq.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Raúl. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Rob Davies <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> The way I read it is comdev are doing a mass migration to SF - its >>>>>>>>> understandable they wouldn’t want multiple targets - so to pick >>>> one >>>>>>>>> destination for the code move makes sense. However its not clear >>>> that >>>>>> we >>>>>>>>> have to keep camel-extra at SF - or why we couldn’t just move it >>>> to >>>>>>>> GitHub >>>>>>>>> ourselves ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 4 Sep 2015, at 15:54, Pontus Ullgren <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Victor and David: You are welcome to join the com-dev mailing >>>> list >>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> enlighten them. >>>>>>>>>> Here is a link the latest answer on that question :-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201507.mbox/%3CBY2PR03MB490B6943E12F5D925203A2E99900%40BY2PR03MB490.namprd03.prod.outlook.com%3E >>>>>>>>>> // Pontus >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 16:01 David Karlsen < >>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Why not github? >>>>>>>>>>> 4. sep. 2015 3:54 p.m. skrev "Victor NOËL" < >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>> Are they even aware of the problem with sourceforge? >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe someone that is known there (such as a member of an >>>> Apache >>>>>>>>> Project >>>>>>>>>>>> ;) could tell them before they take the wrong decision? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It's even worse than what I thought because after the Gimp >>>> people >>>>>>>> told >>>>>>>>> SF >>>>>>>>>>>> to stop doing their shady things, they actually insisted >>>> during >>>>>>>> 2015: >>>> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2015-May/msg00097.html >>>> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2015-May/msg00098.html >>>>>>>>>>>> Victor >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Le 04/09/2015 15:36, Raul Kripalani a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Quite frankly, SF would be my last resort. But the Apache >>>> Extras >>>>>>>>>>>>> repositories are governed by the ASF and the consensus seems >>>> to >>>>>>>> point >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> SF >>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than Github (which would have been my personal >>>> preference) >>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bitbucket. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raúl Kripalani* >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Camel PMC Member & Committer | Enterprise Architect, >>>> Open >>>>>>>>> Source >>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration specialist >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/raulkripalani | >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.raulkr.net | twitter: @raulvk >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Victor NOËL < >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I arrive a bit late, but are we sure sourceforge is a good >>>>>>>> solution? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> After all the fuss about their terrible behaviour by >>>> implanting >>>>>>>>> adware >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> other spyware in installers available to download there. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It became known with the big complain of the Gimp project >>>> (that >>>>>>>>> wasn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> even fixed by SourceForge…). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> See >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/08/gimp_dumps_sourceforge_over_dodgy_ads_and_installer/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for details. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Victor >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 04/09/2015 13:29, Pontus Ullgren a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we not already have volunteers in the current set of >>>>>>>> contributors >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the project ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I for one is willing in continue maintaining the project >>>> once >>>>>> it >>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved (where ever it is moved). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the question right now is the progress of the SF >>>>>>>> migration. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 09:18 Henryk Konsek < >>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I know the Apache Extras projects are being >>>> moved to >>>>>>>>> the... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SourceForge. So we need to find a volunteer willing to >>>>>> maintain >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after SourceForge migration. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> czw., 3.09.2015 o 20:38 użytkownik Pontus Ullgren < >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> napisał: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have not seen any other updates on the comdev mailing list >>>> no. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we should reach out to Daniel Gruno (that seems >>>> to be >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the move) to get a status update for camel-extra. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 at 23:57 Raul Kripalani < >>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we have an update on the ASF front about the Apache >>>>>> Extras >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migration? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users are asking for new releases of camel-extras >>>>>> components... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I quickly went through the ComDev thread but found no >>>>>>>> conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overlooked an email in that thread. Things tend to get >>>> very >>>>>>>> chatty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there and there's no clearly marked conclusion email. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raúl Kripalani* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Camel PMC Member & Committer | Enterprise >>>> Architect, >>>>>>>> Open >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Source >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration specialist >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/raulkripalani | >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.raulkr.net | twitter: @raulvk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Pontus Ullgren < >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From this thread[1] it seems that Daniel Gruno is the >>>> one >>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>> charge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the move. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However I fail to find any indication on the progress >>>> or >>>>>>>>> roadmap. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using Github as a backup plan does NOT[2] seem to be a >>>>>>>> option in >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion of the community-dev decision. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway perhaps we should move this discussion to the >>>>>>>> camel-dev >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailinglist. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/%3C559EC097.7000707%40apache.org%3E >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/%3cby2pr03mb490b6943e12f5d925203a2e99...@by2pr03mb490.namprd03.prod.outlook.com%3E >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 at 07:17 Christoph Emmersberger < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any date when this move is expected? We have >>>> still >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> backup >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Github in place, ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Pontus Ullgren < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Diging through the community development list shows >>>> that it >>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to sourceforge along with the rest of the apache extra. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/browser >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 14:12 Pontus Ullgren < >>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes this has been discussed on the dev list[1][2] and >>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> development mailing list [2]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortuantly there does not seem to be any >>>> conclusion on >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Moving-camel-extra-to-github-tt5764066.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] >>>> http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/PROPOSAL-camel-extra-moves-forward-tt5765822.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3] >>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-community >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 at 18:53 Tim Dudgeon < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now that the Google code site is about to switch to read >>>>>> only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ( >>>>>>>> https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/camel-extra/) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wondered >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is going to happen to the Camel Extras stuff? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Henryk Konsek >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/hekonsek >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vous utilisez la version libre et gratuite d'OBM, développée >>>> et >>>>>>>>>>> supportée >>>>>>>>>>>>>> par Linagora. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contribuez à la R&D du produit en souscrivant à une offre >>>>>>>> entreprise. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://pro.obm.org/ - http://www.linagora.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Vous utilisez la version libre et gratuite d'OBM, développée >>>> et >>>>>>>>> supportée >>>>>>>>>>>> par Linagora. >>>>>>>>>>>> Contribuez à la R&D du produit en souscrivant à une offre >>>>>>>> entreprise. >>>>>>>>>>>> http://pro.obm.org/ - http://www.linagora.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> > -- Krzysztof Sobkowiak JEE & OSS Architect, Integration Architect Apache Software Foundation Member (http://apache.org/) Apache ServiceMix Committer & PMC Member (http://servicemix.apache.org/) Senior Solution Architect @ Capgemini SSC (http://www.capgeminisoftware.pl/) 33rd Degree 4charity (http://2015.33degree.org/)
