Hi,

Anyone can join now afair.

Anyway, for sure gitter is not convenient IMHO, the UI is horrible and the 
iOS/Android clients are so so.

We use Slack in bunch of Apache project and it’s good enough to me.

Regards
JB

> Le 20 août 2020 à 14:14, Luca Burgazzoli <[email protected]> a écrit :
> 
> The main reason not to use Slack - IMHO - is that is not straightforward to
> join using one of the account most of the people already have
> 
> ---
> Luca Burgazzoli
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 1:36 PM Francois Papon <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Why not using the ASF Slack workspace?
>> 
>> There is an existing Camel channel.
>> 
>> regards,
>> 
>> François
>> [email protected]
>> 
>> Le 20/08/2020 à 13:12, Luca Burgazzoli a écrit :
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Over the past months I've been trying to be more active on gitter on the
>>> various camel projects and  overall the user experience was quite
>> terrible
>>> for me (in particular when using the mobile client), as example:
>>> 
>>> - threads are not shown properly on the iOS client thus messages are
>>> messing up
>>> - messages are extremely slow to load and sometime the message you sent
>>> take quite long to be visible even on your end so you don't actually know
>>> what it is happening
>>> - messages keep being marked as unread even if you did read them
>>> - sometimes you need to close/reopen the thread sidebar to see new
>> messages
>>> for a given thread
>>> 
>>> I don't know if it is only me but because of my frustration with the tool
>>> I'd like to know if anyone is interested in evaluating some alternatives
>>> (please note that we DON'T necessarily need to switch to something
>>> different).
>>> 
>>> I'd personally would like to suggest to try out Zulip (
>>> https://zulipchat.com/) as it allow us to have an independent
>> organization (
>>> camel.zulipchat.com) and to login with github/gitter/google so you can
>>> easily join without having to fill gazillion of details but I know it's
>>> streams and topic way of organizing conversations may not be optimal for
>>> everyone.
>>> 
>>> If anyone has suggestions, let discuss here.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Luca Burgazzoli
>>> 
>> 

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