If we all agree about having discussions in Apache Camel repository, I'll
ask to INFRA.

Il giorno gio 27 lug 2023 alle ore 10:35 Otavio Rodolfo Piske <
angusyo...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Hi Claus,
>
> Thanks for the discussion and sharing your thoughts and concerns about this
> feature with me!
>
> On my side there also was a big miscommunication: I should have done a
> better job engaging the community on the discussions about CAMEL-18957, and
> what would be the short, medium and long term plans for it.
>
> After we get Camel 4 GA released, I'll share an updated plan with more
> details and also engage the community so that we can iteratively and
> jointly design and implement this feature.
>
> As for GitHub discussions: +1 for that idea. I think it can be a good venue
> for discussions.
>
> Kind regards
>
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 10:23 AM Nicolas Filotto <nfilo...@talend.com>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 to use GitHub Discussion too
> > ________________________________
> > From: Andrea Cosentino <ancosen1...@yahoo.com.INVALID>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2023 10:13
> > To: dev <dev@camel.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: Using camel-test-infra-core vs regular testing
> >
> > I'm +1 to use discussions and I think we could to enable it to INFRA.
> >
> > --
> > Andrea Cosentino
> > ----------------------------------
> > Apache Camel PMC Chair
> > Apache Karaf Committer
> > Apache Servicemix PMC Member
> > Email: ancosen1...@yahoo.com
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 10:11:01 AM GMT+2, Claus Ibsen <
> > claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I had a talk with Otabio about this subject.
> >
> > There has been some misunderstanding and miscommunication on my part, and
> > this mail thread may also have a few related subjects conflated.
> >
> > In the short term we should focus on bringing Camel 4.0 to GA.
> > After this release then I think there is time where we can focus on
> > discussing this again, but from a fresh start.
> > Otavio said he will at that given time put together some details and
> share
> > it with the community.
> >
> >
> >
> > On another note we also wonder if we could try GitHub Discussion for
> this.
> > As mailing lists are a bit out-of-date, and
> > maybe GH discussions is a better place for a wider audience to see and
> > bring feedback.
> >
> > The Camel Karavan project has GH discussions
> >
> >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/apache/camel-karavan/discussions__;!!CiXD_PY!SbGh6yRHOwIAwegnsKdUtykGDSvbQ3iIVeToixq6eRplyr3cVpuz5U2aHqxJ5b0kzGQTcEdh0dfAcMSivvYBs5X8Cmo$
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 7:24 AM Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I noticed that we are migrating some components to use camel-test-infra
> > > for unit testing.
> > > And I think it makes sense when you have
> > >
> > > - need to use docker / test-containers
> > > - or to setup some internal embedded system that usually would require
> a
> > > base class with some code to do that.
> > >
> > > However for basic components that are not in need for that then we
> should
> > > not use camel-test-infra but just regular camel-test, just as camel end
> > > users will do that.
> > >
> > > For example this PR
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/apache/camel/pull/10739__;!!CiXD_PY!SbGh6yRHOwIAwegnsKdUtykGDSvbQ3iIVeToixq6eRplyr3cVpuz5U2aHqxJ5b0kzGQTcEdh0dfAcMSivvYBs_qR8OQ$
> > >
> > > I fail to see the need for test-infra-core for camel-asn1. This is
> just a
> > > message transformation (dataformat) library that works purely
> in-memory.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Claus Ibsen
> > > -----------------
> > > @davsclaus
> > > Camel in Action 2:
> >
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> >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Claus Ibsen
> > -----------------
> > @davsclaus
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> Otavio R. Piske
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