Thanks Paulo. That one definitely fell through the cracks.

I have been pretty busy lately but as soon as I have a bit of time I will
create a roadmap page to
summarize everything that was proposed so far. Including Making SSLContext
creation pluggable proposed by Maulin and the JUnit 5 migration proposal
from Aleksei.

Le mer. 19 mai 2021 à 01:48, Paulo Motta <pauloricard...@gmail.com> a
écrit :

> I would love to see Ekaterina's work from CASSANDRA-15234 to standardize
> configuration be resumed in the next releases.
>
> Thought it would be worth mentioning since we had quite a productive
> discussion before putting it on hold to focus on 4.0, so it would be great
> to have that conversation resumed.
>
> Em seg., 26 de abr. de 2021 às 14:16, Benedict Elliott Smith <
> bened...@apache.org> escreveu:
>
> > I think my earlier response vanished into the moderator queue. Just a few
> > comments:
> >
> > 1) The Paxos latency (and correctness) improvements I think should land
> in
> > 4.0.x, as we have introduced a fairly significant regression and this
> work
> > mostly resolves outstanding issues with LWTs today.
> > 2) If we aim to deliver multi-partition LWTs in 4.x/5.0, we may likely
> > want to pair this with work to further reduce latency beyond the above
> > work, as contention will become a more significant problem. Should I be
> > involved in delivering multi-partition LWTs I will also be aiming to
> > deliver even lower latencies for the release they land in.
> > 3) To support all of the above work, I also aim to deliver a Simulator
> > facility for deterministically executing cluster workloads under
> > adversarial scheduling (i.e. that intercepts all message and thread
> events
> > and evaluates them sequentially, in pseudorandom order), alongside
> > linearizability verification built upon this. This work will include (or
> > have as a prerequisite) significant clean-ups to internal functionality
> > like executors, use of futures and other concurrency primitives, and
> > mocking out of time and the filesystem.
> >
> >
> > On 23/04/2021, 14:46, "Benjamin Lerer" <b.le...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi everybody,
> >
> >     Thanks for all the responses. I went through the emails and
> aggregated
> > the
> >     proposals to give us an idea on where we stand at this point.
> >
> >     I only included the improvements in the list and left on the side the
> > bug
> >     fixes.
> >     Regarding bug fixes, I wonder if we should not have discussions every
> > month
> >     to discuss what are the important issues that should be fixed in
> > priority.
> >     I feel that we sometimes tend to forget old issues even if they are
> > more
> >     important than some new ones.
> >
> >     Do not hesitate to tell me if I missed something or misinterpreted
> some
> >     proposal.
> >
> >     *Query side improvements:*
> >
> >       * Storage Attached Index or SAI. The CEP can be found at
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/CEP-7%3A+Storage+Attached+Index
> >       * Add support for OR predicates in the CQL where clause
> >       * Allow to aggregate by time intervals (CASSANDRA-11871) and allow
> > UDFs
> >     in GROUP BY clause
> >       * Ability to read the TTL and WRITE TIME of an element in a
> > collection
> >     (CASSANDRA-8877)
> >       * Multi-Partition LWTs
> >       * Materialized views hardening: Addressing the different
> Materialized
> >     Views issues (see CASSANDRA-15921 and [1] for some of the work
> > involved)
> >
> >     *Security improvements:*
> >
> >       * SSTables encryption (CASSANDRA-9633)
> >       * Add support for Dynamic Data Masking (CEP pending)
> >       * Allow the creation of roles that have the ability to assign
> > arbitrary
> >     privileges, or scoped privileges without also granting those roles
> > access
> >     to database objects.
> >       * Filter rows from system and system_schema based on users
> > permissions
> >     (CASSANDRA-15871)
> >
> >     *Performance improvements:*
> >
> >       * Trie-based index format (CEP pending)
> >       * Trie-based memtables (CEP pending)
> >       * Paxos improvements: Paxos / LWT implementation that would enable
> > the
> >     database to serve serial writes with two round-trips and serial reads
> > with
> >     one round-trip in the uncontended case
> >
> >     *Safety/Usability improvements:*
> >
> >       * Guardrails. The CEP can be found at
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/%28DRAFT%29+-+CEP-3%3A+Guardrails
> >       * Add ability to track state in repair (CASSANDRA-15399)
> >       * Repair coordinator improvements (CASSANDRA-15399)
> >       * Make incremental backup configurable per keyspace and table
> >     (CASSANDRA-15402)
> >       * Add ability to blacklist a CQL partition so all requests are
> > ignored
> >     (CASSANDRA-12106)
> >       * Add default and required keyspace replication options
> > (CASSANDRA-14557)
> >       * Transactional Cluster Metadata: Use of transactions to propagate
> >     cluster metadata
> >       * Downgrade-ability: Ability to downgrade to downgrade in the event
> > that
> >     a serious issue has been identified
> >
> >     *Pluggability improvements:*
> >
> >       * Pluggable schema manager (CEP pending)
> >       * Pluggable filesystem (CEP pending)
> >       * Pluggable authenticator for CQLSH (CASSANDRA-16456). A CEP draft
> > can be
> >     found at
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_G-OZCAEmDyuQuAN2wQUYUtZBEJpMkHWnkYELLhqvKc/edit
> >       * Memtable API (CEP pending). The goal being to allow improvements
> > such
> >     as CASSANDRA-13981 to be easily plugged into Cassandra
> >
> >     *Memtable pluggable implementation:*
> >
> >       * Enable Cassandra for Persistent Memory (CASSANDRA-13981)
> >
> >     *Other tools:*
> >
> >       * CQL compatibility test suite (CEP pending)
> >
> >     Le jeu. 22 avr. 2021 à 16:11, Benjamin Lerer <b.le...@gmail.com> a
> > écrit :
> >
> >     > Finally, I think it's important we work to maintain trunk in a
> > shippable
> >     >> state.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > I am +100 on this. Bringing Cassandra to such a state was a huge
> > effort
> >     > and keeping it that way will help us to ensure the quality of the
> >     > releases.
> >     >
> >     > Le jeu. 15 avr. 2021 à 17:30, Scott Andreas <sc...@paradoxica.net>
> a
> >     > écrit :
> >     >
> >     >> Thanks for starting this discussion, Benjamin!
> >     >>
> >     >> I share others’ enthusiasm on this thread for improvements to
> > secondary
> >     >> indexes, trie-based partition indexes, guardrails, and encryption
> > at rest.
> >     >>
> >     >> Here are some other post-4.0 areas for investment that have been
> on
> > my
> >     >> mind:
> >     >>
> >     >> – Transactional Cluster Metadata
> >     >> Migrating from optimistic modification and propagation of cluster
> >     >> metadata via gossip to a transactional implementation opens a lot
> of
> >     >> possibilities. Token movements and instance replacements get safer
> > and
> >     >> faster. Schema changes can be made atomic, enabling users to
> > execute DDL
> >     >> rapidly without waiting for convergence. Operations like
> expansions
> > and
> >     >> shrinks become easier to automate with less care and feeding.
> >     >>
> >     >> – Paxos improvements
> >     >> During discussion on C-12126, Benedict expressed interest in
> > post-4.0
> >     >> improvements that can be made to Cassandra’s Paxos / LWT
> > implementation
> >     >> that would enable the database to serve serial writes with two
> > round-trips
> >     >> and serial reads with one round-trip in the uncontended case. For
> > many
> >     >> cross-WAN serial use cases, this may halve the latency of CAS
> > queries.
> >     >>
> >     >> – Multi-Partition LWTs
> >     >> LWT is a great primitive, but modeling applications with the
> > constraint
> >     >> of single-key CAS can be a game of Twister. Extending the paxos
> >     >> improvements discussed above to enable multi-partition CAS would
> > enable
> >     >> users of Apache Cassandra to perform serial operations across
> > partition
> >     >> boundaries.
> >     >>
> >     >> – Downgrade-ability
> >     >> I also see “downgradeability” as important to future new release
> >     >> adoption. Taking file format changes as an example, it’s currently
> > not
> >     >> possible to downgrade in the event that a serious issue has been
> > identified
> >     >> – unless you’re able to host-replace yourself out after upgrading
> > one
> >     >> replica, or revert to a pre-upgrade snapshot and accept data loss.
> > It would
> >     >> be excellent if it were possible for v.next to continue writing
> the
> >     >> previous SSTable/commitlog/hint/etc. format until a switch is
> > flipped to
> >     >> opt into new file formats. Apache HDFS takes a similar approach,
> > enabling
> >     >> downgrade until NameNode metadata is finalized [1]. This would be
> an
> >     >> excellent capability to have in Apache Cassandra, and dramatically
> > lower
> >     >> the stakes for new release adoption.
> >     >>
> >     >> On pluggability / disaggregation:
> >     >> I agree that these are important themes. We’ll want to bring a lot
> > of
> >     >> care and attention to this work. Disaggregation can open a lot of
> >     >> possibilities - with the drawback of future changes being
> > restricted to the
> >     >> defined interface and an inability to optimize across interface
> > boundaries.
> >     >> We can probably hit a sweet spot, though.
> >     >>
> >     >> Toolchains to validate implementations of pluggable components
> will
> >     >> become very important. It would be bad for the project’s users if
> > bundled
> >     >> implementations were of uneven quality or supported subsets of
> >     >> functionality. Converging on a common validation toolchain for
> > pluggable
> >     >> subsystems can help us ensure that quality while minimizing the
> > effort
> >     >> required to test new implementations.
> >     >>
> >     >> Finally, I think it's important we work to maintain trunk in a
> > shippable
> >     >> state. This might look like major changes and new features hiding
> > behind
> >     >> feature flags that enable users to selectively enable them as
> > development
> >     >> and validation proceeds, with new code executed regardless of the
> > flag held
> >     >> to a higher standard.
> >     >>
> >     >> Cheers,
> >     >>
> >     >> – Scott
> >     >>
> >     >> [1]
> >     >>
> >
> https://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/hadoop-project-dist/hadoop-hdfs/HdfsRollingUpgrade.html
> >     >>
> >     >>
> >     >> ________________________________________
> >     >> From: guo Maxwell <cclive1...@gmail.com>
> >     >> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 10:25 PM
> >     >> To: dev@cassandra.apache.org
> >     >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Next release roadmap
> >     >>
> >     >> +1
> >     >>
> >     >> Brandon Williams <dri...@gmail.com> 于2021年4月15日周四 上午4:48写道:
> >     >>
> >     >> > Agreed.  Everyone just please keep in mind this thread is for
> > roadmap
> >     >> > contributions you plan to make, not contributions you would like
> > to
> >     >> > see.
> >     >> >
> >     >> > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 3:45 PM Nate McCall <zznat...@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >     >> > >
> >     >> > > Agree with Stefan 100% on this. We need to move towards
> > pluggability.
> >     >> Our
> >     >> > > users are asking for it, it makes sense architecturally, and
> > people
> >     >> are
> >     >> > > doing it anyway.
> >     >> > >
> >     >> > >
> >     >> > > ...
> >     >> > > > for me definitely
> >     >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-9633
> >     >> > > >
> >     >> > > > I am surprised nobody mentioned this in the previous
> answers,
> > there
> >     >> is
> >     >> > > > ~50 people waiting for it to happen and multiple people
> > working on
> >     >> it
> >     >> > > > seriously and wanting that feature to be there for so so
> long.
> >     >> > > > ...
> >     >> >
> >     >> >
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