My 2 cents is that Java desktop UI is effectively dead. So switching to another UI library that is either already dead or is dying isn't a great use of time. So I would try to change it as little as possible.
For the tables with editable cells problem, my recommendation would be to move editing into a separate "inspector" area that is laid out as a vertical form. Then the table can be read-only. For layout, I liked MigLayout when I did Swing apps back in the day. But that doesn't solve the problem with the existing usage of JGoodies. On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 12:37 AM Andrus Adamchik <aadamc...@gmail.com> wrote: > I see a couple of problems with the current UI (beside it being > subjectively old) : > > * We are effectively blocked from any significant evolution of the > Modeler. Any time we want to do anything fancy (e.g. improve usability of > tables with editable cells, etc.), we quickly run into the wall with Swing > capabilities. > * JGoodies library that we depend heavily upon for layouts is no longer > free/open source [1], creating risks for JVM upgrades. > > So modernization of the Modeler is a practical matter. > > Looks like Fleet is not using Compose [2], but a lesser known JetBrains > Toolbox does [3]. And everyone admits it is still raw. > > Andrus > > [1] https://www.jgoodies.com/downloads/libraries/ > [2] https://twitter.com/jetbrains/status/1465245360973131777 < > https://twitter.com/jetbrains/status/1465245360973131777> > [3] > https://blog.jetbrains.com/kotlin/2021/08/compose-multiplatform-goes-alpha/#toolbox > < > https://blog.jetbrains.com/kotlin/2021/08/compose-multiplatform-goes-alpha/#toolbox > > > > > > > On Dec 14, 2021, at 12:48 AM, John Huss <johnth...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I believe that compose UI library is used to build the new upcoming IDE > > from JetBrains called Fleet. So I expect it will continue to be supported > > unless that product completely flops. > > > > I don't mind the current modeler UI. It's good enough for me. > > > > https://www.jetbrains.com/fleet/ > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 2:15 AM Andrus Adamchik <aadamc...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> A datapoint to our perennial discussion of technology to use for the > >> future CayenneModeler... With Swing being old and crusty, and JavaFX no > >> longer supported by Oracle, perhaps we should be looking for something > >> fresh. I just came across a new "Compose Multiplatform" desktop UI > >> framework by JetBrains [1]. It is programmed in Kotlin and is based on > >> Google toolkit for Android. Their GitHub examples [2] are not that > visually > >> impressive, but I would imagine it is a matter of styling. A million $ > >> question is whether it will be around and open source in 10-15 years. > >> > >> Anyone knows anything about it? > >> > >> Andrus > >> > >> [1] https://www.jetbrains.com/lp/compose-mpp/ > >> [2] > >> > https://github.com/JetBrains/compose-jb/blob/master/artwork/readme/apps.png > >> > >> > >> > >
