Hi Pepjin, a separate thread is definitely not required. I personally consider it a nice practice. In most votes we do in PLC4X the DISCUSS thread that’s always started in parallel to the VOTE thread is usually empty. I was just providing some suggestions … I guess the main problem with the thread I was referring to, was that without the RC1 and RC2 subjects it was getting hard to count votes.
Chris Von: Pepijn Noltes <pepijnnol...@gmail.com> Datum: Dienstag, 16. Januar 2024 um 13:23 An: dev@celix.apache.org <dev@celix.apache.org> Cc: Christofer Dutz <cd...@apache.org> Betreff: Re: Personal feedback to your last release vote Hi All, @Chris Thanks for the feedback. On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 4:17 AM Peng Zheng <pengzh...@apache.org> wrote: > > Hi, Chris. > > Thanks for providing feedback. > > On 2024/1/15 01:10, Christofer Dutz wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > while going through the projects activity over the last quarter in > > preparation of this month's board meeting. I came to notice that it was > > quite tricky to follow the votes on your last release. Not only was there a > > lot of discussion in the vote thread, also was the same thread used for > > multiple RCs same with the result thread. > > IIRC, we have cast two rounds of voting: one on 2023/9/20 and the other > on 2023/9/28. > > Though they display correctly as two separate threads, they appear as a > single thread on Pony. > I guess this caused most of the difficulty following our discussion, right? > > > I think it would make things a bit cleaner and clearer for outsiders to > > follow if every RC had it's own vote and result thread (just add something > > like "RC1" and "RC2" to the subject and to move Discussions to a paralell > > "[DISCUSS] Release Apache Celix 1.2.3 RC1" ... this way it's super easy to > > follow and to tally the results. > > Yes, adding "RC1" and "RC2" to the title should prevent Pony from mixing > two separate threads into one, which should solve the main issue here. > If we will have an extensive pre-release discussion, a separate > discussion thread will definitely help. > On the other hand, IMO some brief inline discussions should not harm the > overall readability. I agree that adding a RC1, RC2, etc to the voting subject is useful. Concerning a discussion thread I have some concerns: - If we do not want discussion on the voting thread, I think a separate release discussion thread always needs to be created when creating a release vote. Otherwise I expect it is hard to control where discussions replies will occur. - I am not sure if a seperate discussion thread will make the overall process more clear. Especially when looking back to an earlier vote. Because if there is a separate discussion thread, I expect every +0 or -1 vote will refer to discussion thread for more info, possible making the vote arguments more difficult to follow. > > > > > Please treat this as feedback from a fellow Apache person and not as > > official Board feedback. > > > > Chris > > > > PS: Please keep me in the loop and make sure I'm on CC, as I'm not > > subscribed to this list. > > > -- > Peng Zheng Pepijn
