+1 Cam. I like everything there.

-- Joyce


On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Cameron Goodale <[email protected]>wrote:

> Here is the current state of component names:
>
> Current list we won't change:
> ------------------------------------------
> build process
> general
> metrics
> visualization
> website
>
> New Components to Add:
> -----------------------------------------
> documentation
> dataset
>
>
> The 4 Contentious Components still being discussed: (with my attempt to
> please the commenters thus far)
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> rcmed -> data sources
> rcmet -> analysis
> rcmet ui -> webapp (this would include ui, middleware, etc...)
> regridding -> data processing  (loosely maps to dataset_processor, but
> would encompass ensemble, temporal and spatial regrid)
>
> I also agree with Mike J. that JIRA has functionality to map components to
> Component Leads which might be a nice way to help divide up the work, and I
> feel there is a tension between component labels that are Core Developer
> Friendly (map to a module of code - dataset_processor) and New User
> Friendly (map to a set of functionality they understand - regridding).  We
> can always have both, but run the risk of too many options.
>
> We can also setup the new components in the list, put them into use and
> revisit this issue in 6 months and see what components are used and which
> are not.  Call it a "Try and Wait" approach to this.
>
>
>
> -Cameron
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Ramirez, Paul M (398J) <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> > Seems to me there is a simple high level web-ui, command line, and API.
> > Potentially, there is services too but at the moment that would reflect
> > the services to support the web UI. There should also be something that
> > links issues to build so we can group together updates to any build
> > scripts, packaging, and distribution to somewhere like pypi.
> >
> > I think if we get too specific then if there are shifts we have to go
> > change our labels again (imo).
> >
> > --Paul
> >
> > On 8/20/13 7:42 AM, "Michael Joyce" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >Chris,
> > >
> > >1) Regridding is far too specific with regards to what dataset_processor
> > >actually does in my opinion. Visualization vs plotting, I like
> > >visualization better personally.
> > >
> > >2) Again, "pipeline" seems too generic. Even "rcmet" is too generic in
> my
> > >opinion. I think it's a sign that something is wrong when the vast
> > >majority
> > >of our issues are falling under a single component. Too me that says
> that
> > >we need to break that component into smaller, more specific components.
> > >(Unless, of course, all the work is actually being done on just one
> > >specific component).
> > >
> > >I think the more important question is, what are we using these labels
> > >for?
> > >Are they for accurately describing issues for committers/contributors or
> > >are we trying to make it easy for people making JIRAs to label the
> > >problem?
> > >Most people who don't actively participate on the project are (probably)
> > >going to label their issue as "general" since they have no idea what is
> > >broken. If that's the case, then our components should be useful for the
> > >people on the project and thus specific. We should also exploit
> component
> > >leads so that issues can be filtered to people on the project who are
> most
> > >capable of dealing with/delegating the issue.
> > >
> > >TLDR: I like specific, descriptive component names over generic
> > >catch-alls.
> > >One generic component is good for people making issues that have no idea
> > >what is wrong; These can adjusted once someone has looked at the
> problem.
> > >Let's exploit component leads to make all of our lives easier!
> > >
> > >Thoughts?
> > >
> > >
> > >-- Joyce
> > >
> > >
> > >On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
> > >[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Cam, I am +1 for this remapping, with the caveats:
> > >>
> > >> 1. regridding is much more understood in the community than dataset
> > >> processor.
> > >> Same goes for viz (compared to plotting). So dunno on those.
> > >>
> > >> 2. I can see your point about rcmet, but don't we have a concept of
> > >> end-to-end
> > >> regrid->analysis->viz pipeline? Wouldn't something like pipeline or
> > >>maybe
> > >> even
> > >> analysis make more sense than simply having no component? To me some
> > >> component is
> > >> better than none.
> > >>
> > >> Bump it to the top of my list anytime.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Chris
> > >>
> > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> > >> Senior Computer Scientist
> > >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> > >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> > >> Email: [email protected]
> > >> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> > >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Cameron Goodale <[email protected]>
> > >> Reply-To: "[email protected]"
> > >> <[email protected]>
> > >> Date: Monday, August 19, 2013 7:21 PM
> > >> To: "[email protected]"
> > >><[email protected]>
> > >> Subject: Re: JIRA component names
> > >>
> > >> >Hey Guys,
> > >> >
> > >> >I am going to take a crack and the task of mapping A1 -> B1 that
> Chris
> > >> >mentioned since I have been making JIRAs and wishing for some other
> > >> >components in the list.  Since the new OCW refactoring introduces
> some
> > >>new
> > >> >software modules/components i think it makes sense to align JIRA
> issues
> > >> >with each area of the code.  This helps map issues to modules in the
> > >>code,
> > >> >items tasks that touch large sweeping parts of the code should go
> under
> > >> >'general' and they need a closer look since they are probably taking
> on
> > >> >too
> > >> >much work and need sub-tasks or should be broken into smaller chunks.
> > >> >
> > >> >rcmed -> data_source  (this would also relate to ESG work or
> > >>developing an
> > >> >interface to OpenDAP moving forward)
> > >> >rcmet -> None (just drop this from the OCW issue tracker.  RCMET is a
> > >>JPL
> > >> >project that is built on OCW)
> > >> >rcmet ui -> webapp (The 'ui' is basically AngularJS and Bottle.
> > >>Webapp is
> > >> >generic enough that we can change to Ember.js and CherryPy if we
> like)
> > >> >regridding -> dataset_processor (map to the module that does this
> > >> >function)
> > >> >visualization -> plotting (map to the module that does this function)
> > >> >documentation ->  NEW Component
> > >> >dataset -> NEW Component
> > >> >
> > >> >A note about rcmet above:
> > >> >
> > >> >Here are 14 open issues with rcmet as the component and what I think
> a
> > >> >reasonable mapping could be:
> > >> >
> > >> >(general)  CLIMATE-261 Consolidate Code that converts a String into a
> > >> >Datetime Object
> > >> >(general)  CLIMATE-259 Create branch to refactor updates to
> > >>ui/services to
> > >> >support multiple metrics/plotting
> > >> >(documentation) CLIMATE-258 Improve Evaluation documentation
> > >> >(dataset)  CLIMATE-219 Add name attribute to Dataset
> > >> >(metrics)  CLIMATE-218 Update metric handling in Evaluation to
> coincide
> > >> >with new Metric definition
> > >> >(general)  CLIMATE-217 Add metrics.py for OCW refactoring
> > >> >(general)  CLIMATE-214 Add evaluation.py to OCW
> > >> >(dataset_processor) CLIMATE-179 Add support for Observation/Reference
> > >> >option when doing Spatial Regridding
> > >> >(general)  CLIMATE-137 OCW refactoring code
> > >> >(general)  CLIMATE-50 RCMET needs to use a logger instead of prints
> > >> >(general)  CLIMATE-49 Add the 'obs' regrid option into
> > >> >toolkit.do_data_prep.prep_data function
> > >> >(REMOVE)  CLIMATE-47 precipFlag attribute within the Model class
> needs
> > >>to
> > >> >be refactored - Not an issue with OCW Dataset Class
> > >> >(general)  CLIMATE-8   CLIMATE-7 SubRegions Support
> > >> >(metrics)  CLIMATE-7 Refactor the metrics.metrics_plots function
> > >> >
> > >> >Thanks for allowing me to bump this thread to top of your inbox.
> > >> >
> > >> >-Cam
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
> > >> >[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Perfect
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Aug 16, 2013, at 10:49 AM, "Michael Joyce" <[email protected]>
> > >>wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > If people need to catch up on the refactoring that's been
> occurring
> > >> >>they
> > >> >> > can find the original proposal for refactoring at [1]. The full
> > >>thread
> > >> >> > where this was discussed can be found in the mail archives at
> [2].
> > >>The
> > >> >> wiki
> > >> >> > entry that Mazi made detailing proposed package layouts
> (including
> > >>the
> > >> >> one
> > >> >> > we ultimately went with) is available at [3].
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > To summate:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > The old code (which was called RCMET) is being refactored into
> the
> > >>ocw
> > >> >> > package with the intention of making the code base more
> > >>maintainable
> > >> >>and
> > >> >> > the API nice and pretty.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Hopefully this is sufficiently verbose. I don't have the time to
> go
> > >> >>into
> > >> >> > more detail at the moment. If anyone is confused feel free to ask
> > >>away
> > >> >> and
> > >> >> > I'll try to elaborate later!!
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Thanks
> > >> >> > Mike
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > [1]: http://s.apache.org/RKI
> > >> >> > [2]:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-climate-dev/201306.mb
> > >> >>ox/browser
> > >> >> > [3]:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLIMATE/Open+Climate+Workbenc
> > >> >>h+API+summary
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > -- Joyce
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
> > >> >> > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> Can you detail "the refactoring" so everyone on the list here
> > >>knows
> > >> >>what
> > >> >> >> you are talking about?
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> A few paragraphs would be great, Mike, thanks.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Cheers,
> > >> >> >> Chris
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >> >> >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> > >> >> >> Senior Computer Scientist
> > >> >> >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> > >> >> >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> > >> >> >> Email: [email protected]
> > >> >> >> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> > >> >> >>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >> >> >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> > >> >> >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> > >> >> >>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> >> From: Michael Joyce <[email protected]>
> > >> >> >> Reply-To: "[email protected]"
> > >> >> >> <[email protected]>
> > >> >> >> Date: Friday, August 16, 2013 10:07 AM
> > >> >> >> To: dev <[email protected]>
> > >> >> >> Subject: Re: JIRA component names
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>> The 3 that caught my eye were:
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> rcmet
> > >> >> >>> rcmet ui
> > >> >> >>> rcmet
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> As to what they should be instead I don't know. 'rcmet ui'
> could
> > >> >> easily be
> > >> >> >>> 'ocw ui' without loss of clarity. With the refactoring I don't
> > >>know
> > >> >> what
> > >> >> >>> we
> > >> >> >>> want to call 'rcmet' and 'rcmed' doesn't seem like it needs to
> be
> > >> >> there at
> > >> >> >>> all, so I don't know if we need to think of an alternative.
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> -- Joyce
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
> > >> >> >>> [email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>>> Can you be more specific and propose e.g., :
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>> A1->B1
> > >> >> >>>> A2->B2
> > >> >> >>>> ..
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>> Where A is the set of "JPL/RCMES centric" names and B is the
> new
> > >> >> >>>> proposed one?
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>> Cheers,
> > >> >> >>>> Chris
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >> >> >>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> > >> >> >>>> Senior Computer Scientist
> > >> >> >>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> > >> >> >>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> > >> >> >>>> Email: [email protected]
> > >> >> >>>> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >> >> >>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> > >> >> >>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> >>>> From: Michael Joyce <[email protected]>
> > >> >> >>>> Reply-To: "[email protected]"
> > >> >> >>>> <[email protected]>
> > >> >> >>>> Date: Friday, August 16, 2013 9:31 AM
> > >> >> >>>> To: dev <[email protected]>
> > >> >> >>>> Subject: JIRA component names
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>>> Some of our JIRA components are very JPL/RCMES-centric. What
> > >>does
> > >> >> >>>> everyone
> > >> >> >>>>> think of switching these over to something more generic?
> Ideas
> > >>on
> > >> >> >>>> names?
> > >> >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>> -- Joyce
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>

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