On Oct 2, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Edison Su <edison...@citrix.com> wrote:

> any user can just simply "pip install marvin", without download/build 
> cloudstack source code. 
> 

yes, but you have the same issue as we had with cloudmonkey. When can we 
release a new marvin ? 

breaking it up allows to have a different release cycle.


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alex Huang [mailto:alex.hu...@citrix.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 12:39 PM
>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Breaking out Marvin from CloudStack
>> 
>> I don't really understand what purpose would this serve.  Would we ever use
>> newer marvin against older CloudStack or vice versa?  What's the benefit?
>> 
>> I can understand it for cloudmonkey because cloudmonkey is an admin cli
>> tool and reving it differently is not a bad idea.  I just don't see it for 
>> marvin
>> and, especially for the tests.
>> 
>> --Alex
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Prasanna Santhanam [mailto:t...@apache.org]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 10:14 AM
>>> To: CloudStack Dev
>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Breaking out Marvin from CloudStack
>>> 
>>> I would like to seperate marvin from the main cloudstack repo. Much of
>>> marvin's development has little coupling with CloudStack.
>>> 
>>> Similar to CloudMonkey, marvin undergoes rapid changes and it is
>>> essential to provide a smooth workflow and faster releases for those
>> working with it.
>>> 
>>> There are also a small set of people currently looking at marvin for
>>> testing right now. Often, their reviews and QA effort is mixed with
>>> those of cloudstack itself. By having a different repo I'd like to be
>>> able to provide commit access to those working on marvin alone quickly to
>> help with testing.
>>> 
>>> After separating marvin
>>> 0. we will have a separate release cycle for marvin 1. we will have a
>>> new home for marvin's docs using Sphinx 2. if possible, a different
>>> criteria for providing commit access to marvin's repos.
>>> 3. all tests of cloudstack will also move to marvin's repository
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Prasanna.,
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