One alternative I have is to abandon using SolidFire's multi-tenancy
ability (separating volumes by accounts for reporting purposes). If I only
used one uber account, then I'd only be using one set of credentials.

Another is more work and would have to wait until 4.4: Add logic to the
storage plug-in framework to notify storage plug-ins when a host needs
access to a given volume that's supplied by that plug-in's storage. In this
model, the plug-in could choose to not use CHAP and instead tell the
storage system that host x is OKed for accessing volume y.

We already have the ability to listen for host-connect-to-storage events,
but that is not granular enough for my purposes (as my storage is zone wide
and can be used by tons of hosts at the same time, so I wouldn't want to
give them all access to all of the volumes of the SAN).

Does anyone know if this is just a XenServer problem?

Thanks


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Mike Tutkowski <
mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com> wrote:

> Good points, Tim.
>
> Do you know if this is an issue the XenServer group plans to address
> anytime soon?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Tim Mackey <tmac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The problem with doing that is during host reboot. Then only one of the
>> credential sets will be used to do the discovery, and on each reboot a
>> discovery will occur. It'll also have issues with multipath.
>>
>> There will also be an issue during pool join, and there could be
>> replication issues in xenstore.
>>
>> Net is that you can make things work by doing that, but error recovery
>> paths and reboots break.
>> On Dec 18, 2013 6:07 PM, "Mike Tutkowski" <mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > We have noticed if I ssh into XenServer and delete the file /etc/iscsi/
>> > 10.10.8.108,3260 (where 10.10.8.108 is our storage's IP address and
>> 3260 is
>> > the port) that I can create SRs using different CHAP credentials.
>> >
>> > Can anyone think of a "got-cha" here?
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Tim Mackey <tmac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Mike,
>> > >
>> > > I'm referring to the open-iscsi code used by XAPI.  XAPI has a storage
>> > > manager API which deals with all the SR management.  It's also where
>> the
>> > > issue you're running into exists.
>> > >
>> > > In terms of clearing the connections and credentials, the easiest way
>> is
>> > > via a reboot.  Since your using multiple CHAP credentials, only one
>> set
>> > > will be used and any SRs which use a different CHAP secret will fail
>> to
>> > > have their targets discovered during the pdb-plug phase of storage
>> > > initialization.  You can then destroy the SRs which failed to come up
>> and
>> > > move forward.
>> > >
>> > > -tim
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Mike Tutkowski <
>> > > mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hey Tim,
>> > > >
>> > > > When you refer to modifying the storage manager, are you referring
>> to
>> > > > CloudStack?
>> > > >
>> > > > Perhaps you are referring to CitrixResourceBase, which is where we
>> > > discover
>> > > > and log in to iSCSI targets.
>> > > >
>> > > > Do you know of a way to delete those cached CHAP credentials via
>> XAPI
>> > so
>> > > > when new ones are used for discovery they can work?
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks!
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Tim Mackey <tmac...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Unfortunately what you're experiencing is how it works.  While
>> > > XenServer
>> > > > > does support different CHAP credentials by SR, it only supports a
>> > > single
>> > > > > CHAP credential for discovery.  It can be made to work, but you'd
>> > need
>> > > to
>> > > > > either modify how the storage manager works to pull it off, or
>> > rewrite
>> > > > some
>> > > > > of the init scripts to cache the discovery data.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Mike Tutkowski <
>> > > > > mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Hi,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I just noticed a problem today while creating SRs in XenServer.
>> > > Perhaps
>> > > > > > someone with related experience could point me in the right
>> > > direction.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Let's say my SAN's management IP address is X.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I can have XenServer create a shared SR using IP address X with
>> > CHAP
>> > > > > > credentials Y.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > If I try to have XenServer create another shared SR using IP
>> > address
>> > > X
>> > > > > that
>> > > > > > uses different CHAP credentials (ex. CHAP credentials Z),
>> XenServer
>> > > > > returns
>> > > > > > a discovery failure.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > It's like XenServer is expecting all iSCSI targets at the same
>> IP
>> > > > address
>> > > > > > to have the same CHAP credentials.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Does anyone know if I am mistaken here? This seems like a
>> critical
>> > > > defect
>> > > > > > if this is true.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks!
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > *Mike Tutkowski*
>> > > > > > *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
>> > > > > > e: mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com
>> > > > > > o: 303.746.7302
>> > > > > > Advancing the way the world uses the
>> > > > > > cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
>> > > > > > *™*
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > *Mike Tutkowski*
>> > > > *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
>> > > > e: mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com
>> > > > o: 303.746.7302
>> > > > Advancing the way the world uses the
>> > > > cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
>> > > > *™*
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > *Mike Tutkowski*
>> > *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
>> > e: mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com
>> > o: 303.746.7302
>> > Advancing the way the world uses the
>> > cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
>> > *™*
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *Mike Tutkowski*
> *Senior CloudStack Developer, SolidFire Inc.*
> e: mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com
> o: 303.746.7302
> Advancing the way the world uses the 
> cloud<http://solidfire.com/solution/overview/?video=play>
> *™*
>



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