Perhaps a recycle icon would be better? To me it makes more sense. I do like the idea of making sure via dialogs that the user knows what they are doing. Perhaps configurable so for private clouds where sysadmins know their stuff they don't get prompted.
Regards Alex Hitchins D: +44 1892 523 587 | S: +44 2036 030 540 | M: +44 7788 423 969 alex.hitch...@shapeblue.com -----Original Message----- From: Mike Tutkowski [mailto:mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com] Sent: 20 March 2014 17:38 To: Brian Federle Cc: Alena Prokharchyk; dev@cloudstack.apache.org; Jessica Wang; Harikrishna Patnala Subject: Re: Resetting a VM is broken? I don't really have an opinion regarding icons, but maybe another idea here would be to provide a detailed explanation in the confirmation dialog of what's about to happen since it could lead to data loss (unless you follow John's solution of the management server having to be stopped, which seems like a lot of work in a multi-management server environment). On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Brian Federle <brian.fede...@citrix.com>wrote: > >> the Reset Vm option is presented as a button unlike the icons > > I think this was because all the other icons we tried to represent > this with were too confusing to users -- they were clicking on 'reset VM' > thinking it was 'reboot VM' -- then as a last minute fix the decision > was to just to show a text label. > > Any ideas from anyone on what would be a good icon representation? > > -Brian > > On Mar 19, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Alena Prokharchyk < > alena.prokharc...@citrix.com> wrote: > > > 1) Didn't notice "the elephant" - that the Reset Vm option is > > presented > as > > a button unlike the icons for other options. UI folks - > > Brian/Jessica- > why > > we decided to represent this option differently in the UI? > > > > 2) Mike, I've looked at the code and the history. We've always > > allocated > a > > new volume during the vm restore call. Hari, can you please confirm > > that this feature you wrote, was designed to work this way > > > > > > -Alena. > > > > > > On 3/19/14, 2:41 PM, "Mike Tutkowski" <mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com> > wrote: > > > >> To clarify: Reboot VM seemed to keep the VM running and just reboot > >> the OS. > >> > >> Reset VM seemed to shut the VM down and then re-start it (with the > >> same root disk for the OS). > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Mike Tutkowski < > >> mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com> wrote: > >> > >>> I could be wrong, but I thought as recently as 4.3 that Reset VM > >>> essentially stopped and then re-started the VM with the same root disk. > >>> > >>> It seemed to differ from Reboot VM only in the sense that the VM > >>> was never technically stopped (the OS inside the VM was just > >>> rebooted). > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Mike Tutkowski < > >>> mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I'm using XenServer 6.1 hosts (two of them) in this case. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Mike Tutkowski < > >>>> mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Yeah, stopping and restarting works fine...as does, I believe, > >>>>> rebooting the VM. > >>>>> > >>>>> Right below Reboot VM, there is a Reset VM option. > >>>>> > >>>>> If that means "re-install," then we probably should clean up the > >>>>> old root disk. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Alena Prokharchyk < > >>>>> alena.prokharc...@citrix.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> don¹t see ³Reset Vm² option in UI; do you mean ³Reboot instance²? > >>>>>> I¹ve > >>>>>> just tried that, as well as calling stop/startVM from the UI. > >>>>>> The Vm boots up with its original disk. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I¹m having Xen/Nfs, not sure it matters > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -Alena. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 3/19/14, 2:19 PM, "Mike Tutkowski" > >>>>>> <mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com > > > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> I didn't look into what the GUI calls, but I invoked the Reset > >>>>>>> VM > >>>>>> option > >>>>>>> in > >>>>>>> the GUI. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Alena Prokharchyk < > >>>>>>> alena.prokharc...@citrix.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Mike, just to confirm - did you call > >>>>>>>> stopVirtualMachine/startVirtualMachine apis? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -alena. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 3/19/14, 1:55 PM, "Mike Tutkowski" > >>>>>> <mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I noticed today while running through some test cases for > >>>>>>>>> 4.4 > >>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>> resetting a VM does not work as expected. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Instead of the typical stop and re-start behavior where the > >>>>>>>>> VM is > >>>>>>>> booted > >>>>>>>>> back up using the same root disk, the VM gets a new root > >>>>>>>>> disk > >>>>>> when > >>>>>> it > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>> booted back up. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can anyone confirm this finding for me with his or her setup? 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