Hi,

On 14-Oct-2014, at 5:13 pm, Nux! <n...@li.nux.ro> wrote:
> That's very nice and certainly needed, but it may be a problem - i.e. a 
> commercial entity distributing Cloudstack binaries, depending on the 
> bureaucracy at the moment, it could be at best an unofficial solution. /imho

You’re right, we’re not going to push it to make it official. It will a free 
hosted service that we (ShapeBlue) build and manage for our use-cases, at the 
same time we offer it publicly, claim to be reliable, trustworthy and good 
citizens, and maintain relevant information (such as release notes, information 
on builds etc) for the benefit of CloudStack users.

Regards.

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> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rohit Yadav" <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>
>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, 14 October, 2014 12:05:48
>> Subject: Re: CloudStack Mirrors
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We think one issue with current CloudStack repositories and hosting locations
>> are that they are not very informative about what tag/commit was used to 
>> build
>> the deb/rpms, systemvmtemplate etc and if they are oss or non-oss/noredist or
>> if they were patched or built out of official CloudStack releases, and they 
>> may
>> not host all the artifacts (templates, debs, rpms) since 4.0.
>>
>> ShapeBlue has a product patching service for their customers so we invested 
>> some
>> time in last few weeks to build the infrastructure to solve these issues. To
>> host this publicly for everyone (and yes including the patch repositories,
>> since we try to do most of our work upstream and share our branches publicly
>> https://github.com/shapeblue/cloudstack), we’re working on having a dedicated
>> site/page that holds release notes and relevant information of all the things
>> that we’ll host. The infrastructure is reliable and pretty fast, soon we’ll 
>> be
>> able to add more nodes in other geographic locations and make it public.
>>
>> On 14-Oct-2014, at 3:43 pm, Leo Simons <lsim...@schubergphilis.com> wrote:
>>> On Oct 14, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Erik Weber <terbol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I'm not familiar with Apache policies in this regard, but is there any way
>>>> we could establish a set of official / supported mirrors that all answer on
>>>> the same DNS address?
>>>> I.e. so that we only have to document one url
>>>
>>> Typically the mirroring people use 302 redirects rather than DNS magic.
>>>
>>> Basically, to do it right, I think we should choose one route of
>>>
>>> 1. use existing apache mirror infrastructure
>>> * discuss with infrastructure@ the sanity of hosting systemvms on the 
>>> existing
>>> mirrors, if ok, @see
>>> http://www.apache.org/info/how-to-mirror.html
>>> http://people.apache.org/~bodewig/mirror.html
>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/mirrors.html
>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/release-download-pages
>>> * release systemvms as actual/official apache artifacts
>>> * create a custom version of dyn.cgi/download.cgi if/as needed
>>> * update scripts to point at that CGI, i.e.
>>> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/cloudstack/releases/4.4.1/systemvm/systemvm-4.4.1.xen.bz2
>>>
>>> 2. use existing sourceforge mirror infrastructure
>>> * release systemvms as semi-official binaries built from apache source
>>> * create a project on sourceforge
>>> * use the sourceforge mirror infrastructure
>>> * example of apache project doing this
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>>> * update scripts to point at that magic, i.e.
>>> curl -o systemvm-4.4.1.xen.bz2 -L
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/cloudstack.mirror/files/4.4.1/systemvm/systemvm-4.4.1.xen.bz2/download
>>> * tell infrastructure@ we are doing this just so they’re aware of the need 
>>> and
>>> how we addressed it
>>>
>>> The problem with using the apache mirrors is that traditionally apache 
>>> promises
>>> to keep the total repo somewhat size-limited. Lot of sites mirror apache 
>>> (and
>>> fsf) because its 50GB or so, as opposed to the 100s of GBs you need to be a
>>> source forge or linux mirror.
>>>
>>> The OpenOffice approach is interesting because before becoming an apache 
>>> project
>>> they had huge mirror infrastructure (built with mirrorbrain), some of which
>>> actually migrated to apache hardware IIRC with quite a bit of invested 
>>> effort,
>>> but now it seems they abandoned that, and are just using sourceforge. So I
>>> suggest learning their lessons and doing the same.
>>>
>>> All the people around the world providing mirroring for open source projects
>>> will probably appreciate not having another thing to configure :)
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>> Leo
>>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rohit Yadav
>> Software Architect, ShapeBlue
>> M. +91 88 262 30892 | rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com
>> Blog: bhaisaab.org | Twitter: @_bhaisaab
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Regards,
Rohit Yadav
Software Architect, ShapeBlue
M. +91 88 262 30892 | rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com
Blog: bhaisaab.org | Twitter: @_bhaisaab



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