Thanks Syed, that is much clearer now.  :)

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On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Syed Mushtaq <syed1.mush...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Right now we don't plan to create templates from this functionality mainly
> because you can achieve the same effect using the standard Volume Snapshots
> API. Since the template would always reside on the secondary storage, it
> doesn't really make sense to use the backed cloning if a copy to secondary
> storage is required anyways.
>
> To give a little more background, we have a Xenserver + SolidFire
> installation and snapshots that happen on Xenserver are very expensive
> partly because they consume dom0 resources and partly because a VDI
> snapshot on Xen can cause a significant drop in your I/O throughput during
> the snapshot process (we've seen about 30-50% drop in the number of IOPS on
> our instances). We've also seen cases where the snapshots don't get deleted
> for a long time on Xenserver and we have to deal with a degraded I/O
> performance for a long time (about an hour in our case). We've opened a bug
> with Xenserver for the same but haven't had much response on it [1]. So we
> really want to use the SolidFire's native snapshot capability and I believe
> it would be beneficial to others as well.
>
> [1]: https://bugs.xenserver.org/browse/XSO-434
>
> Thanks,
> -Syed
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Will you be able to create a Template from a StorageSnapshot?  If yes,
>> will the template be stored in the secondary storage like normal templates
>> or will that be handled somehow on the vendor side?
>>
>> *Will STEVENS*
>> Lead Developer
>>
>> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts
>> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6
>> w cloudops.com *|* tw @CloudOps_
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Syed Mushtaq <syed1.mush...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Will!!!
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I explicitly linked the Design Spec in the Jira ticket because it was
>>>> not clear in the 'mention' section because it shows as a page 'you do not
>>>> have permission to'.
>>>>
>>>> *Will STEVENS*
>>>> Lead Developer
>>>>
>>>> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts
>>>> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6
>>>> w cloudops.com *|* tw @CloudOps_
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Syed Ahmed <sah...@cloudops.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Design Spec:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/StorageSnapshot++API
>>>>>
>>>>> Jira Ticket
>>>>>
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-9278
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> We plan to propose a new set of APIs to do snapshots on managed
>>>>> storage backends like SolidFire. Snapshots on current managed storage stay
>>>>> on the
>>>>> device which is contrary to what CloudStack calls snpshots. But taking
>>>>> snapshots
>>>>> on storage and keeping it there has its own advantages and we would
>>>>> ideally like
>>>>> to have both ways of doing snapshots. This proposal adds 4 new APIs to
>>>>> create snapshots on backend storage.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you guys think of this feature? I would love to have some
>>>>> feedback. I am working on making the design spec more concrete but wanted
>>>>> to have
>>>>> a high level feedback first before starting to work on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> -Syed
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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