ws: Inline... *Will STEVENS* Lead Developer
<https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes it makes sense. I agree with you regarding the legacy application. I > forgot them, my bad. Considering legacy application, I do agree that using > the HTTP 300 method will not work. > ws: Ya, I think we have to keep this in mind as it is the most pressing issue that needs to be solved. > > Now regarding the second point in the discussion; I think clients have a > better position to decide, which mirror is the best for them. The same > process you do to check the mirror latency, or check if the mirror is > online could be executed on the client side. As I said before, this shifts > the responsibility to the client side (this may be a good or a bad thing > depending on the perspective). > ws: ASSUMING the client scripts a solution similar to what I have done with the HEAD request on the resource and they pick the one with the lowest latency, then yes, I agree that is a better solution. If they are just randomly picking one of the mirrors returned, then no, I don't think it is better than what I can provide from the server. The interesting thing here is that we don't have to choose only one approach if I am implementing this web server. We COULD introduce the concept of using Headers or Query Params to give the client a choice of how they want the mirror to be chosen. In that case, we would want a simple fail safe method to be the default and then the more 'advanced' options to be handled by padding additional information. This way the client can choose the 300 approach if the are setup to consume and make an educated decision about the results. Something like this: a) Default: use the current implementation since it handles loaded mirrors pretty well. b) Passing a flag would make the server respond with the 300 implementation. c) Passing a flag would make the server chose the closest geographically located mirror which successfully responded to the HEAD request. Does this make sense? > > Anyways, I do not think that it would be feasible to use the approach I > proposed given legacy systems. When I proposed, I did not think of this > problem. > > Besides that comment, I think the system is ok ;) > > Before, you also asked opinions about the use of “cloudstack-www” as a repo > for this mirror list file. I am in favor of that. Then, it would not > require setting up other repositories and routines to get data from Github > to a web server at Apache. > ws: Ya, I thought of this while walking home from the train and I think it makes the most sense. We already have everything in place to make it work. > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com> > wrote: > > > So the main issue I see with this is the following. > > > > This implementation is designed to target legacy installations which will > > be affected when download.cloud.com disappears. These people will need > to > > make a DB change to replace the 'download.cloud.com' with some other url > > (maybe 'download.cloudstack.org'). Once the DB has been updated, we can > > not expect anything else of the client, they need to be able to just > > continue operation as they were without any need to rebuild or upgrade > > their ACS. > > > > If we try to force the decision to the client, then we break the legacy > > implementations. Since the SSVM is likely going to be the client in some > > cases, and since it does not already have the logic to handle the 300 > > approach correctly, I feel like it is not a viable solution for the > legacy > > deployments. > > > > In addition to that. I don't think the client is in any better position > to > > make the mirror decision than I am. I am likely able to make a more > > 'educated' decision than the client would be able to because I can do > > different tests on the endpoint(s) before making a final decision. > > > > Does this make sense or am I missing something obvious? > > > > *Will STEVENS* > > Lead Developer > > > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> > > > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Rafael Weingärtner < > > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I think I understood you, but I did not understand you. > > > > > > Let me see if I can create an example to illustrate how we could do > using > > > the HTTP 300 code. > > > > > > The HTTP 300 code indicates clients that he/she/it has multiple choices > > to > > > access the requested resource. If the request is a HEAD, this is the > only > > > thing that the server returns. If the request if a GET, then the server > > > returns the choices for the client. The response type is defined on the > > > server based on the Content-Type, user agent and others. > > > > > > Let’s say the server receives a GET request and informs the > content-type > > as > > > JSON (application/JSON). Your application could get the mirrors list, > do > > > the appending process for the requested resource path, and then return > a > > > JSON array with the possible mirror the client can use. Then, the > client > > > gets this list and does the processing required to select a mirror. > > > > > > Now let’s say that a human access the link using a browser. Then, the > > > server should receive something like (text/plain) as the content-type; > I > > > think depending on the browser this field may differ a little (it would > > > require some checking). Anyways, the server detects that it is a > “human” > > > requesting the resource, then we could serve an HTML page with a > > Javascript > > > that uses the mirror list. This Javascript could do some checking and > > > choose the best mirror for that specific. > > > > > > Why do I think this approach is interesting? > > > The application you developed would be used only to retrieve valid and > > > trusted sources of system VM images (a trusted repository for mirrors > > that > > > we as a community vouch for). Also, we shift the decision process > > > regarding mirrors from the server to the client. Then, it is up to > > clients > > > to select mirrors, and not up to us (or some of our implementations). > > > > > > Did this help? > > > BTW: I am not saying I am against the way you proposed, which would > work > > > fine. It is merely a suggestion using a different perspective. > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Will Stevens < > williamstev...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > @rafael: in general, I don't think the client should ever be making a > > > > choice about a mirror. We have to assume we are working with a > scripted > > > > application and anything hard coded in that implementation on the > > client > > > > side is a risk. > > > > > > > > I may not be understanding the use of the 300 approach, so I will > > > research > > > > it to see if I can make it fit. > > > > > > > > On Mar 3, 2017 9:59 AM, "Rafael Weingärtner" < > > > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Will great job. > > > > > > > > I had the same doubt as Daan. > > > > > > > > Have you considered using HTTP 300 working mode? Then, we could let > the > > > > client decide which mirror is the best(closest?). Section “10.3.1” of > > [1] > > > > talks about it; this would put the pressure on deciding upon a mirror > > on > > > > the client side, but I think it would be fair. > > > > > > > > [1] https://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html > > > > > > > > PS: You really like very short variables names! > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 1:24 AM, Daan Hoogland < > > > daan.hoogl...@shapeblue.com > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Nice little thing Will, > > > > > > > > > > One question: if I read the code correctly it ‘go’es and tries all > > > > mirrors > > > > > at once and whichever responses first is redirected to the client. > > This > > > > > might well be the same every time. This might be the one closest to > > the > > > > > mirror302 and not to the client. Is that correct or did I miss a > > > weighing > > > > > algorithm hidden in there? > > > > > > > > > > Good coding, > > > > > > > > > > On 03/03/17 00:23, "Will Stevens" <sw...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hey All, > > > > > Please review this repo and tell me what you think: > > > > > https://github.com/swill/mirror302 > > > > > > > > > > Let me know if you have questions or you would like me to make > > > > changes > > > > > before I bring this topic up with ASF Infra and open a ticket > to > > > get > > > > > this > > > > > implemented. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > *Will Stevens* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Will Stevens < > > > wstev...@cloudops.com > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I am building a short term solution right now. I hopefully > > will > > > > > have the > > > > > > building blocks in place by the weekend so we can start > working > > > > with > > > > > Infra > > > > > > to get it in place. > > > > > > > > > > > > We will have a web server which we can point something like > > > > > > downloads.cloudstack.org (or whatever url) at. Then we will > > > have > > > > > an ASF > > > > > > repo which tracks a mirror list and exposes a static site to > be > > > > able > > > > > to > > > > > > query the mirror list. > > > > > > > > > > > > The web server will receive a request and will do a 302 > > redirect > > > to > > > > > the > > > > > > appropriate resource on one of the mirrors. > > > > > > > > > > > > This gets us started. Legacy environments will have to do a > DB > > > > > change to > > > > > > change from 'download.cloud.com' to ' > downloads.cloudstack.org' > > > (or > > > > > > whatever), but otherwise it should be pretty simple. > > > > > > > > > > > > We can improve how we deliver templates going forward, but > this > > > > > obviously > > > > > > requires some discussion still. I will try to buy us some > time > > > > with > > > > > an > > > > > > implementation which solves our problems today... > > > > > > > > > > > > *Will STEVENS* > > > > > > Lead Developer > > > > > > > > > > > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Abhinandan Prateek < > > > > > > abhinandan.prat...@shapeblue.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Initial seeding is a manual step and that is not going to > > change > > > > in > > > > > near > > > > > >> future. A handy list of official places from where these > > > templates > > > > > can be > > > > > >> downloaded won’t harm this part of the installation. Just > > allow > > > > > anyone > > > > > >> credible who follows democratic process to publish their > > > templates > > > > > with > > > > > >> apache’s blessings. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Coming to urls hard coded in db, the popular suggestion is > to > > > > point > > > > > them > > > > > >> to mirrors. This looks good but this is going to take some > > > effort > > > > > that has > > > > > >> not materialised yet. Once this change is made it will be > > going > > > in > > > > > some > > > > > >> future release like 4.11; the problem still remains for the > > > > > releases that > > > > > >> are already out there. In case access to download.cloud.com > > is > > > > > dropped > > > > > >> at some point we will have to document the procedure such > that > > > > > people know > > > > > >> how to make these stable releases work. That is where the > > > > procedure > > > > > >> documented here https://shankerbalan.net/blog/ > > > > > >> seed-cloudstack-templates-offline/ should be officially > > adapted > > > > > with a > > > > > >> marketplace to pick up templates of choosing. Maybe we can > > have > > > a > > > > > pre-setup > > > > > >> script to make choices instead of written wiki. Note that > this > > > > will > > > > > be > > > > > >> anyway needed by the older releases. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On 01/03/17, 4:24 PM, "Paul Angus" < > paul.an...@shapeblue.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> >-1 > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> >We are trying to get MORE people to use CloudStack. And > > > raising > > > > > the > > > > > >> barrier to entry does nothing to help that. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> >Kind regards, > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> >Paul Angus > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> >paul.an...@shapeblue.com > > > > > >> >www.shapeblue.com > > > > > >> >53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK > > > > > >> >@shapeblue > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> >-----Original Message----- > > > > > >> >From: Abhinandan Prateek [mailto:abhinandan.prateek@ > > > > shapeblue.com] > > > > > >> >Sent: 01 March 2017 09:39 > > > > > >> >To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > > > > > >> >Subject: Re: Modern template hosting > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> >+1 > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> >After seeing this discussion running in circles several > > times, > > > I > > > > > think > > > > > >> we should at least get started with the simplest option. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> >On 27/02/17, 11:54 PM, "Chiradeep Vittal" < > > > chirade...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> >>The alternative foolproof way is to simply not provide the > > > > > automatic > > > > > >> >>download. > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >>Just document the mirror list URL where the templates can > be > > > > > found. I > > > > > >> >>don't know why people reject this option. > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >>https://shankerbalan.net/blog/seed-cloudstack- > > > > templates-offline/ > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >>On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Will Stevens > > > > > >> >><williamstev...@gmail.com> > > > > > >> >>wrote: > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >>> OK. Thanks for the heads up. > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> On Feb 27, 2017 1:08 PM, "Chiradeep Vittal" < > > > > > chirade...@gmail.com> > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > Sounds workable. The downloader code in the SSVM won't > > > > follow > > > > > >> >>> > redirects I think. > > > > > >> >>> > https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/blob/ > > > > 5511065fc20787619d > > > > > 9cd0444 > > > > > >> >>> > a65a3 155fc9c921/core/src/com/cloud/storage/template/ > > > > > >> >>> > HttpTemplateDownloader.java#L93 > > > > > >> >>> > https://goo.gl/dSi0r5 > > > > > >> >>> > Might need to add > > > > > >> >>> > client.setRedirectStrategy(new LaxRedirectStrategy()); > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Will Stevens > > > > > >> >>> > <wstev...@cloudops.com> > > > > > >> >>> > wrote: > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > We haven't opened a ticket yet because we don't > have a > > > > > strategy > > > > > >> yet. > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > What do you guys think of this: > > > > > >> >>> > > - We setup a new github repo in the 'apache' org > which > > > > > consists > > > > > >> >>> > > of a > > > > > >> >>> > single > > > > > >> >>> > > file with a list of active/supported mirrors. > > > > > >> >>> > > - I write a small web server, distributed as a > binary, > > > > > which can > > > > > >> >>> > > be > > > > > >> >>> > hosted > > > > > >> >>> > > by ASF Infra. This web server will query the > current > > > list > > > > > of > > > > > >> >>> > > mirrors > > > > > >> >>> and > > > > > >> >>> > > will select one and then do a 302 redirect to that > > > mirror. > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > The act of 'choosing' a mirror could be done in a > > number > > > > of > > > > > ways. > > > > > >> >>> > > - If we want to define an order, then it could just > > try > > > > > from the > > > > > >> >>> > > top of > > > > > >> >>> > the > > > > > >> >>> > > list and work its way down. It would curl the > target > > to > > > > > make > > > > > >> >>> > > sure it > > > > > >> >>> > gets > > > > > >> >>> > > a 200 and if it does, it would do a 302 redirect. > > > > > >> >>> > > - Or, if we want to distribute the load across the > > > > mirrors, > > > > > we > > > > > >> >>> > > could > > > > > >> >>> pick > > > > > >> >>> > > from the list randomly. Again, doing a curl to > verify > > > the > > > > > mirror > > > > > >> >>> > > is up > > > > > >> >>> > and > > > > > >> >>> > > then doing a redirect. > > > > > >> >>> > > - If we want to get fancy, we could do a reverse IP > > > lookup > > > > > and > > > > > >> >>> > > try to > > > > > >> >>> > match > > > > > >> >>> > > the requester with their closest geographical > mirror. > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > Thoughts? > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > *Will STEVENS* > > > > > >> >>> > > Lead Developer > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Chiradeep Vittal < > > > > > >> >>> chirade...@gmail.com > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > wrote: > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > What steps are needed to set up a mirror? What > does > > > > Infra > > > > > need > > > > > >> to do? > > > > > >> >>> > Has > > > > > >> >>> > > > anybody filed a ticket with Infra? > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:17 PM, Raja Pullela < > > > > > >> >>> > > > raja.pull...@accelerite.com> > > > > > >> >>> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > Hi will, > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > I believe, we didn’t get to close ‘getting a > > mirror > > > on > > > > > Apache’ > > > > > >> >>> > because > > > > > >> >>> > > we > > > > > >> >>> > > > > needed someone on the Apache Infra side to close > > > this. > > > > > BTW, > > > > > >> >>> > > > > cloudstack-apt.get.eu (I think Nux manages > this?) > > > has > > > > > >> >>> > > > > all/most of > > > > > >> >>> > the > > > > > >> >>> > > > > content. Once we can close on the Apache mirror > > for > > > > > hosting > > > > > >> >>> > > > > the > > > > > >> >>> > > > content, I > > > > > >> >>> > > > > can help assist getting the content there. > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > For now, we have replicated the > > download.cloud.com > > > > > content to > > > > > >> >>> > > > > ‘ s3.download.accelerite.com’. > > > > > >> >>> > > > > Also, we are working on a set of steps/procedure > > to > > > > > help with > > > > > >> >>> > > > > this change. I will update everyone in about a > > > week’s > > > > > time > > > > > >> >>> > > > > on the > > > > > >> >>> > details. > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > Best, > > > > > >> >>> > > > > Raja Pullela > > > > > >> >>> > > > > Engineering Team, > > > > > >> >>> > > > > Accelerite, 2055 Laurelwood Road, Santa Clara, > CA, > > > > 95054 > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > On 2/24/17, 11:23 PM, "williamstev...@gmail.com > > on > > > > > behalf of > > > > > >> >>> > > > > Will Stevens" <williamstev...@gmail.com on > behalf > > > of > > > > > >> >>> > wstev...@cloudops.com> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > unfortunately the template mirror conversation > got > > > > > caught up > > > > > >> >>> > > > > in > > > > > >> >>> > details > > > > > >> >>> > > > and > > > > > >> >>> > > > > nobody took the lead on implementing a solution. > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > citrix has been pinging me every couple months > to > > > say > > > > > 'dude, > > > > > >> >>> > > > > we > > > > > >> >>> need > > > > > >> >>> > to > > > > > >> >>> > > > > remove the dependency on download.citrix.com', > > but > > > i > > > > > have not > > > > > >> >>> > > > > had > > > > > >> >>> > the > > > > > >> >>> > > > > cycles to get in and solve the problem. the > > > shutdown > > > > > of that > > > > > >> >>> > > > > is > > > > > >> >>> > > imminent > > > > > >> >>> > > > > right now, so we need to solve it asap. > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > *Will STEVENS* > > > > > >> >>> > > > > Lead Developer > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Paul Angus < > > > > > >> >>> > paul.an...@shapeblue.com > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Hi Nathan, > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Ideally, if you put the template location in > (or > > > use > > > > a > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > template > > > > > >> >>> > > defined > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > in) test_data.py then the actual location can > > be > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > overridden by > > > > > >> >>> > > anyone > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > testing. > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > For Trillian, we've copied all of the > templates > > > that > > > > > people > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > have > > > > > >> >>> > > define > > > > > >> >>> > > > > to > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > a local repo and then replace the URLs in > > > > > test_data.py to > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > reduce > > > > > >> >>> > > > > bandwidth > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > use and download times. > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Ie: > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "bootableIso": > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > { > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "displaytext": "Test > > Bootable > > > > > ISO", > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "name": "testISO", > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "bootable": True, > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "ispublic": False, > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "url": "{{ > > > > marvin_images_location > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > }}/TinyCore-current.iso", > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "ostype": 'Other Linux > > > > (64-bit)', > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "mode": 'HTTP_DOWNLOAD' > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > }, > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > I thought that we had come up with a solution > > for > > > > > >> >>> > download.cloud.com > > > > > >> >>> > > , > > > > > >> >>> > > > by > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > having a mirrorlist hosted in Community Apache > > > > > 'space' with > > > > > >> >>> anyone > > > > > >> >>> > > able > > > > > >> >>> > > > > to > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > out themselves forward as a mirror. > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > But I must admit I lost track of whether > anyone > > > made > > > > > the > > > > > >> >>> requisite > > > > > >> >>> > > > > changes > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > in code.... > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Paul Angus > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > paul.an...@shapeblue.com > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > www.shapeblue.com > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N > > > 4HSUK > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > @shapeblue > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > From: williamstev...@gmail.com > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > [mailto:williamstev...@gmail.com] > > > > > >> >>> > On > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Behalf Of Will Stevens > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Sent: 24 February 2017 16:30 > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Subject: Re: Modern template hosting > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > this is a hard questions. in general, we > should > > > be > > > > > setting > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > up a > > > > > >> >>> > > mirror > > > > > >> >>> > > > > on > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > some cloudstack/apache domain and then mirror > to > > > > other > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > provided > > > > > >> >>> > > > > templates. > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > we MUST come up with a solution to deprecate > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > 'download.cloud.com > > > > > >> >>> ', > > > > > >> >>> > > > that > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > is going to be going away any day now. > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > i don't know the right way to solve this to be > > > > > honest, but > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > if you > > > > > >> >>> > > have > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > ideas, i am willing to help. > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > *Will STEVENS* > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Lead Developer > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Nathan > > Johnson < > > > > > >> >>> njohn...@ena.com > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > So not to re-open a can of worms, but I’m > in a > > > > > situation > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > where > > > > > >> >>> I > > > > > >> >>> > > need > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > to come up with a Marvin component test that > > > > > depends on a > > > > > >> >>> > template > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > based on a kernel that’s relatively new, > i.e., > > > > > newer than > > > > > >> >>> Centos > > > > > >> >>> > > 5.3 > > > > > >> >>> > > > / > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Ubuntu 10.04 . > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > I see openvm.eu has a suitable template > > (Ubuntu > > > > > 16.0.4 > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > for > > > > > >> >>> KVM), > > > > > >> >>> > > but > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > from looking at the thread "Migrating > > CloudStack > > > > > content > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > from download.cloud.com” it looks like > there > > is > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > resistance to using > > > > > >> >>> > > this > > > > > >> >>> > > > at > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > least for hosting system vm templates over > > > > concerns > > > > > of > > > > > >> >>> > neutrality. > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > Would this be suitable for a component test? > > If > > > > > not, > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > what is a > > > > > >> >>> > > > > “blessed” > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > template location? > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > Nathan Johnson > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > R&D Engineer > > 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