I liked this proposal. I would only question if the ASF Infra would expose directly the application, or if it would put the application behind a web server. If we have a web server in front of it, it gets easier to balance the “proxy” mechanism between multiple instances of this application. I do not know how is the Infra systems there (do they have a private cloud using ACS?!), but I would assume they could configure a scale-out mechanism to replicate instances as soon as the current ones get saturated.
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Will Stevens <sw...@apache.org> wrote: > So now I am leaning towards the following implementation. Use a query > parameter (more accessible than a header) to choose between delivery > options with a sane default if no query param is added. > > The following (potential) options would be available: > a) [ default, no params ] current implementation. first mirror to answer > to the web server would handle the request. > b) [ ?serve=mirrors ] return a 300 with a list of 'valid' mirrors (head > check on resource path). > c) [ ?serve=closest ] the closest 'valid' geographic mirror serves the > request. falls back to (a) on error. > d) [ ?serve=proxy ] the web server would use (a) and stream the > corresponding mirror back to the client. > > We would need a documented recommendation for users based on version > number. The true legacy would have to use (d). It defaults to a sane > default which can handle the slow down of a mirror. It also lays the > foundation for optimizing (d) if we need to manage the load across the > mirrors in the case of proxying. > > Thoughts? I feel like we are getting to a point where we understand what > our potential implementation paths are. > > *Will Stevens* > > PS - If you see this, you should consider coming to CCC in Miami. Travel > assistance closes on March 8th!!! > > > > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com> > wrote: > > > 1) If the legacy implementations do not support redirects, that does > cause > > a problem. A potential solution in that case is to have the web server > > actually proxy the download, but that is not ideal and I would like to > > avoid it if possible. Thanks for bringing that up Chiradeep. > > > > 2) I think we need to have a single URL which people can target. Once > > they make the switch to the new URL, we want the implementation to be > able > > to handle mirror failures without affecting the end client. We want to > > avoid the situation where an ACS user will ever have to change this URL > > more than once. Mirror failures SHOULD NOT affect the ACS users assuming > > there is still at least one mirror who can serve the requested resource. > > > > These are obviously my personal opinions and others will probably have > > differing opinions. > > > > *Will STEVENS* > > Lead Developer > > > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> > > > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Chiradeep Vittal <chirade...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> 1. If you are targeting legacy installations, they are not able to > follow > >> redirects. The line of code that added this capability was added on > 11/16. > >> 2. If you trust the users to edit the database to change the URL, you > can > >> trust them to change it to anything. Just document a known list of good > >> template locations. > >> > >> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 8:13 AM, Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > So the main issue I see with this is the following. > >> > > >> > This implementation is designed to target legacy installations which > >> will > >> > be affected when download.cloud.com disappears. These people will > >> need to > >> > make a DB change to replace the 'download.cloud.com' with some other > >> url > >> > (maybe 'download.cloudstack.org'). Once the DB has been updated, we > >> can > >> > not expect anything else of the client, they need to be able to just > >> > continue operation as they were without any need to rebuild or upgrade > >> > their ACS. > >> > > >> > If we try to force the decision to the client, then we break the > legacy > >> > implementations. Since the SSVM is likely going to be the client in > >> some > >> > cases, and since it does not already have the logic to handle the 300 > >> > approach correctly, I feel like it is not a viable solution for the > >> legacy > >> > deployments. > >> > > >> > In addition to that. I don't think the client is in any better > >> position to > >> > make the mirror decision than I am. I am likely able to make a more > >> > 'educated' decision than the client would be able to because I can do > >> > different tests on the endpoint(s) before making a final decision. > >> > > >> > Does this make sense or am I missing something obvious? > >> > > >> > *Will STEVENS* > >> > Lead Developer > >> > > >> > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> > >> > > >> > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Rafael Weingärtner < > >> > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > > I think I understood you, but I did not understand you. > >> > > > >> > > Let me see if I can create an example to illustrate how we could do > >> using > >> > > the HTTP 300 code. > >> > > > >> > > The HTTP 300 code indicates clients that he/she/it has multiple > >> choices > >> > to > >> > > access the requested resource. If the request is a HEAD, this is the > >> only > >> > > thing that the server returns. If the request if a GET, then the > >> server > >> > > returns the choices for the client. The response type is defined on > >> the > >> > > server based on the Content-Type, user agent and others. > >> > > > >> > > Let’s say the server receives a GET request and informs the > >> content-type > >> > as > >> > > JSON (application/JSON). Your application could get the mirrors > list, > >> do > >> > > the appending process for the requested resource path, and then > >> return a > >> > > JSON array with the possible mirror the client can use. Then, the > >> client > >> > > gets this list and does the processing required to select a mirror. > >> > > > >> > > Now let’s say that a human access the link using a browser. Then, > the > >> > > server should receive something like (text/plain) as the > >> content-type; I > >> > > think depending on the browser this field may differ a little (it > >> would > >> > > require some checking). Anyways, the server detects that it is a > >> “human” > >> > > requesting the resource, then we could serve an HTML page with a > >> > Javascript > >> > > that uses the mirror list. This Javascript could do some checking > and > >> > > choose the best mirror for that specific. > >> > > > >> > > Why do I think this approach is interesting? > >> > > The application you developed would be used only to retrieve valid > and > >> > > trusted sources of system VM images (a trusted repository for > mirrors > >> > that > >> > > we as a community vouch for). Also, we shift the decision process > >> > > regarding mirrors from the server to the client. Then, it is up to > >> > clients > >> > > to select mirrors, and not up to us (or some of our > implementations). > >> > > > >> > > Did this help? > >> > > BTW: I am not saying I am against the way you proposed, which would > >> work > >> > > fine. It is merely a suggestion using a different perspective. > >> > > > >> > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Will Stevens < > >> williamstev...@gmail.com> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > @rafael: in general, I don't think the client should ever be > making > >> a > >> > > > choice about a mirror. We have to assume we are working with a > >> scripted > >> > > > application and anything hard coded in that implementation on the > >> > client > >> > > > side is a risk. > >> > > > > >> > > > I may not be understanding the use of the 300 approach, so I will > >> > > research > >> > > > it to see if I can make it fit. > >> > > > > >> > > > On Mar 3, 2017 9:59 AM, "Rafael Weingärtner" < > >> > > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> > >> > > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > Will great job. > >> > > > > >> > > > I had the same doubt as Daan. > >> > > > > >> > > > Have you considered using HTTP 300 working mode? Then, we could > let > >> the > >> > > > client decide which mirror is the best(closest?). Section “10.3.1” > >> of > >> > [1] > >> > > > talks about it; this would put the pressure on deciding upon a > >> mirror > >> > on > >> > > > the client side, but I think it would be fair. > >> > > > > >> > > > [1] https://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html > >> > > > > >> > > > PS: You really like very short variables names! > >> > > > > >> > > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 1:24 AM, Daan Hoogland < > >> > > daan.hoogl...@shapeblue.com > >> > > > > > >> > > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > Nice little thing Will, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > One question: if I read the code correctly it ‘go’es and tries > all > >> > > > mirrors > >> > > > > at once and whichever responses first is redirected to the > client. > >> > This > >> > > > > might well be the same every time. This might be the one closest > >> to > >> > the > >> > > > > mirror302 and not to the client. Is that correct or did I miss a > >> > > weighing > >> > > > > algorithm hidden in there? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Good coding, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On 03/03/17 00:23, "Will Stevens" <sw...@apache.org> wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Hey All, > >> > > > > Please review this repo and tell me what you think: > >> > > > > https://github.com/swill/mirror302 > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Let me know if you have questions or you would like me to > make > >> > > > changes > >> > > > > before I bring this topic up with ASF Infra and open a > ticket > >> to > >> > > get > >> > > > > this > >> > > > > implemented. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Cheers, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > *Will Stevens* > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Will Stevens < > >> > > wstev...@cloudops.com > >> > > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > I am building a short term solution right now. I > hopefully > >> > will > >> > > > > have the > >> > > > > > building blocks in place by the weekend so we can start > >> working > >> > > > with > >> > > > > Infra > >> > > > > > to get it in place. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > We will have a web server which we can point something > like > >> > > > > > downloads.cloudstack.org (or whatever url) at. Then we > >> will > >> > > have > >> > > > > an ASF > >> > > > > > repo which tracks a mirror list and exposes a static site > >> to be > >> > > > able > >> > > > > to > >> > > > > > query the mirror list. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > The web server will receive a request and will do a 302 > >> > redirect > >> > > to > >> > > > > the > >> > > > > > appropriate resource on one of the mirrors. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > This gets us started. Legacy environments will have to do > >> a DB > >> > > > > change to > >> > > > > > change from 'download.cloud.com' to ' > >> downloads.cloudstack.org' > >> > > (or > >> > > > > > whatever), but otherwise it should be pretty simple. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > We can improve how we deliver templates going forward, but > >> this > >> > > > > obviously > >> > > > > > requires some discussion still. I will try to buy us some > >> time > >> > > > with > >> > > > > an > >> > > > > > implementation which solves our problems today... > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > *Will STEVENS* > >> > > > > > Lead Developer > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Abhinandan Prateek < > >> > > > > > abhinandan.prat...@shapeblue.com> wrote: > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> Initial seeding is a manual step and that is not going to > >> > change > >> > > > in > >> > > > > near > >> > > > > >> future. A handy list of official places from where these > >> > > templates > >> > > > > can be > >> > > > > >> downloaded won’t harm this part of the installation. Just > >> > allow > >> > > > > anyone > >> > > > > >> credible who follows democratic process to publish their > >> > > templates > >> > > > > with > >> > > > > >> apache’s blessings. > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> Coming to urls hard coded in db, the popular suggestion > is > >> to > >> > > > point > >> > > > > them > >> > > > > >> to mirrors. This looks good but this is going to take > some > >> > > effort > >> > > > > that has > >> > > > > >> not materialised yet. Once this change is made it will be > >> > going > >> > > in > >> > > > > some > >> > > > > >> future release like 4.11; the problem still remains for > the > >> > > > > releases that > >> > > > > >> are already out there. In case access to > >> download.cloud.com > >> > is > >> > > > > dropped > >> > > > > >> at some point we will have to document the procedure such > >> that > >> > > > > people know > >> > > > > >> how to make these stable releases work. That is where the > >> > > > procedure > >> > > > > >> documented here https://shankerbalan.net/blog/ > >> > > > > >> seed-cloudstack-templates-offline/ should be officially > >> > adapted > >> > > > > with a > >> > > > > >> marketplace to pick up templates of choosing. Maybe we > can > >> > have > >> > > a > >> > > > > pre-setup > >> > > > > >> script to make choices instead of written wiki. Note that > >> this > >> > > > will > >> > > > > be > >> > > > > >> anyway needed by the older releases. > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> On 01/03/17, 4:24 PM, "Paul Angus" < > >> paul.an...@shapeblue.com> > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >-1 > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> >We are trying to get MORE people to use CloudStack. And > >> > > raising > >> > > > > the > >> > > > > >> barrier to entry does nothing to help that. > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> >Kind regards, > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> >Paul Angus > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> >paul.an...@shapeblue.com > >> > > > > >> >www.shapeblue.com > >> > > > > >> >53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK > >> > > > > >> >@shapeblue > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> >-----Original Message----- > >> > > > > >> >From: Abhinandan Prateek [mailto:abhinandan.prateek@ > >> > > > shapeblue.com] > >> > > > > >> >Sent: 01 March 2017 09:39 > >> > > > > >> >To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > >> > > > > >> >Subject: Re: Modern template hosting > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> >+1 > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> >After seeing this discussion running in circles several > >> > times, > >> > > I > >> > > > > think > >> > > > > >> we should at least get started with the simplest option. > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> >On 27/02/17, 11:54 PM, "Chiradeep Vittal" < > >> > > chirade...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> >>The alternative foolproof way is to simply not provide > >> the > >> > > > > automatic > >> > > > > >> >>download. > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> >>Just document the mirror list URL where the templates > >> can be > >> > > > > found. I > >> > > > > >> >>don't know why people reject this option. > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> >>https://shankerbalan.net/blog/seed-cloudstack- > >> > > > templates-offline/ > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> >>On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Will Stevens > >> > > > > >> >><williamstev...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > >> >>wrote: > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> >>> OK. Thanks for the heads up. > >> > > > > >> >>> > >> > > > > >> >>> On Feb 27, 2017 1:08 PM, "Chiradeep Vittal" < > >> > > > > chirade...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > >> wrote: > >> > > > > >> >>> > >> > > > > >> >>> > Sounds workable. The downloader code in the SSVM > >> won't > >> > > > follow > >> > > > > >> >>> > redirects I think. > >> > > > > >> >>> > https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/blob/ > >> > > > 5511065fc20787619d > >> > > > > 9cd0444 > >> > > > > >> >>> > a65a3 155fc9c921/core/src/com/cloud/ > >> storage/template/ > >> > > > > >> >>> > HttpTemplateDownloader.java#L93 > >> > > > > >> >>> > https://goo.gl/dSi0r5 > >> > > > > >> >>> > Might need to add > >> > > > > >> >>> > client.setRedirectStrategy(new > >> LaxRedirectStrategy()); > >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > >> >>> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Will Stevens > >> > > > > >> >>> > <wstev...@cloudops.com> > >> > > > > >> >>> > wrote: > >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > We haven't opened a ticket yet because we don't > >> have a > >> > > > > strategy > >> > > > > >> yet. > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > What do you guys think of this: > >> > > > > >> >>> > > - We setup a new github repo in the 'apache' org > >> which > >> > > > > consists > >> > > > > >> >>> > > of a > >> > > > > >> >>> > single > >> > > > > >> >>> > > file with a list of active/supported mirrors. > >> > > > > >> >>> > > - I write a small web server, distributed as a > >> binary, > >> > > > > which can > >> > > > > >> >>> > > be > >> > > > > >> >>> > hosted > >> > > > > >> >>> > > by ASF Infra. This web server will query the > >> current > >> > > list > >> > > > > of > >> > > > > >> >>> > > mirrors > >> > > > > >> >>> and > >> > > > > >> >>> > > will select one and then do a 302 redirect to > that > >> > > mirror. > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > The act of 'choosing' a mirror could be done in a > >> > number > >> > > > of > >> > > > > ways. > >> > > > > >> >>> > > - If we want to define an order, then it could > just > >> > try > >> > > > > from the > >> > > > > >> >>> > > top of > >> > > > > >> >>> > the > >> > > > > >> >>> > > list and work its way down. It would curl the > >> target > >> > to > >> > > > > make > >> > > > > >> >>> > > sure it > >> > > > > >> >>> > gets > >> > > > > >> >>> > > a 200 and if it does, it would do a 302 redirect. > >> > > > > >> >>> > > - Or, if we want to distribute the load across > the > >> > > > mirrors, > >> > > > > we > >> > > > > >> >>> > > could > >> > > > > >> >>> pick > >> > > > > >> >>> > > from the list randomly. Again, doing a curl to > >> verify > >> > > the > >> > > > > mirror > >> > > > > >> >>> > > is up > >> > > > > >> >>> > and > >> > > > > >> >>> > > then doing a redirect. > >> > > > > >> >>> > > - If we want to get fancy, we could do a reverse > IP > >> > > lookup > >> > > > > and > >> > > > > >> >>> > > try to > >> > > > > >> >>> > match > >> > > > > >> >>> > > the requester with their closest geographical > >> mirror. > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > Thoughts? > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > *Will STEVENS* > >> > > > > >> >>> > > Lead Developer > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Chiradeep > Vittal > >> < > >> > > > > >> >>> chirade...@gmail.com > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > What steps are needed to set up a mirror? What > >> does > >> > > > Infra > >> > > > > need > >> > > > > >> to do? > >> > > > > >> >>> > Has > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > anybody filed a ticket with Infra? > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:17 PM, Raja Pullela > < > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > raja.pull...@accelerite.com> > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > Hi will, > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > I believe, we didn’t get to close ‘getting a > >> > mirror > >> > > on > >> > > > > Apache’ > >> > > > > >> >>> > because > >> > > > > >> >>> > > we > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > needed someone on the Apache Infra side to > >> close > >> > > this. > >> > > > > BTW, > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > cloudstack-apt.get.eu (I think Nux manages > >> this?) > >> > > has > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > all/most of > >> > > > > >> >>> > the > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > content. Once we can close on the Apache > >> mirror > >> > for > >> > > > > hosting > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > the > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > content, I > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > can help assist getting the content there. > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > For now, we have replicated the > >> > download.cloud.com > >> > > > > content to > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > ‘ s3.download.accelerite.com’. > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > Also, we are working on a set of > >> steps/procedure > >> > to > >> > > > > help with > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > this change. I will update everyone in > about a > >> > > week’s > >> > > > > time > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > on the > >> > > > > >> >>> > details. > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > Best, > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > Raja Pullela > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > Engineering Team, > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > Accelerite, 2055 Laurelwood Road, Santa > Clara, > >> CA, > >> > > > 95054 > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > On 2/24/17, 11:23 PM, " > >> williamstev...@gmail.com > >> > on > >> > > > > behalf of > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > Will Stevens" <williamstev...@gmail.com on > >> behalf > >> > > of > >> > > > > >> >>> > wstev...@cloudops.com> > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > unfortunately the template mirror > conversation > >> got > >> > > > > caught up > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > in > >> > > > > >> >>> > details > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > and > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > nobody took the lead on implementing a > >> solution. > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > citrix has been pinging me every couple > months > >> to > >> > > say > >> > > > > 'dude, > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > we > >> > > > > >> >>> need > >> > > > > >> >>> > to > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > remove the dependency on download.citrix.com > ', > >> > but > >> > > i > >> > > > > have not > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > had > >> > > > > >> >>> > the > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > cycles to get in and solve the problem. the > >> > > shutdown > >> > > > > of that > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > is > >> > > > > >> >>> > > imminent > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > right now, so we need to solve it asap. > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > *Will STEVENS* > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > Lead Developer > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Paul Angus > < > >> > > > > >> >>> > paul.an...@shapeblue.com > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Hi Nathan, > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Ideally, if you put the template location > in > >> (or > >> > > use > >> > > > a > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > template > >> > > > > >> >>> > > defined > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > in) test_data.py then the actual location > >> can > >> > be > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > overridden by > >> > > > > >> >>> > > anyone > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > testing. > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > For Trillian, we've copied all of the > >> templates > >> > > that > >> > > > > people > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > have > >> > > > > >> >>> > > define > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > to > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > a local repo and then replace the URLs in > >> > > > > test_data.py to > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > reduce > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > bandwidth > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > use and download times. > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Ie: > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "bootableIso": > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > { > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "displaytext": "Test > >> > Bootable > >> > > > > ISO", > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "name": "testISO", > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "bootable": True, > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "ispublic": False, > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "url": "{{ > >> > > > marvin_images_location > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > }}/TinyCore-current.iso", > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "ostype": 'Other Linux > >> > > > (64-bit)', > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "mode": 'HTTP_DOWNLOAD' > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > }, > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > I thought that we had come up with a > solution > >> > for > >> > > > > >> >>> > download.cloud.com > >> > > > > >> >>> > > , > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > by > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > having a mirrorlist hosted in Community > >> Apache > >> > > > > 'space' with > >> > > > > >> >>> anyone > >> > > > > >> >>> > > able > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > to > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > out themselves forward as a mirror. > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > But I must admit I lost track of whether > >> anyone > >> > > made > >> > > > > the > >> > > > > >> >>> requisite > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > changes > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > in code.... > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Kind regards, > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Paul Angus > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > paul.an...@shapeblue.com > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > www.shapeblue.com > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London > WC2N > >> > > 4HSUK > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > @shapeblue > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > From: williamstev...@gmail.com > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > [mailto:williamstev...@gmail.com] > >> > > > > >> >>> > On > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Behalf Of Will Stevens > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Sent: 24 February 2017 16:30 > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Subject: Re: Modern template hosting > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > this is a hard questions. in general, we > >> should > >> > > be > >> > > > > setting > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > up a > >> > > > > >> >>> > > mirror > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > on > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > some cloudstack/apache domain and then > >> mirror to > >> > > > other > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > provided > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > templates. > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > we MUST come up with a solution to > deprecate > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > 'download.cloud.com > >> > > > > >> >>> ', > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > that > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > is going to be going away any day now. > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > i don't know the right way to solve this to > >> be > >> > > > > honest, but > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > if you > >> > > > > >> >>> > > have > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > ideas, i am willing to help. > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > *Will STEVENS* > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Lead Developer > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Nathan > >> > Johnson < > >> > > > > >> >>> njohn...@ena.com > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > So not to re-open a can of worms, but I’m > >> in a > >> > > > > situation > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > where > >> > > > > >> >>> I > >> > > > > >> >>> > > need > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > to come up with a Marvin component test > >> that > >> > > > > depends on a > >> > > > > >> >>> > template > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > based on a kernel that’s relatively new, > >> i.e., > >> > > > > newer than > >> > > > > >> >>> Centos > >> > > > > >> >>> > > 5.3 > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > / > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Ubuntu 10.04 . > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > I see openvm.eu has a suitable template > >> > (Ubuntu > >> > > > > 16.0.4 > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > for > >> > > > > >> >>> KVM), > >> > > > > >> >>> > > but > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > from looking at the thread "Migrating > >> > CloudStack > >> > > > > content > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > from download.cloud.com” it looks like > >> there > >> > is > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > resistance to using > >> > > > > >> >>> > > this > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > at > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > least for hosting system vm templates > over > >> > > > concerns > >> > > > > of > >> > > > > >> >>> > neutrality. > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > Would this be suitable for a component > >> test? > >> > If > >> > > > > not, > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > what is a > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > “blessed” > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > template location? > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > Thanks in advance! > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > Nathan Johnson > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > R&D Engineer > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > 618 Grassmere Park Drive, Suite 12 > >> Nashville, > >> > TN > >> > > > > 37211 > >> > > > 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