So now I am leaning towards the following implementation. Use a query parameter (more accessible than a header) to choose between delivery options with a sane default if no query param is added.
The following (potential) options would be available: a) [ default, no params ] current implementation. first mirror to answer to the web server would handle the request. b) [ ?serve=mirrors ] return a 300 with a list of 'valid' mirrors (head check on resource path). c) [ ?serve=closest ] the closest 'valid' geographic mirror serves the request. falls back to (a) on error. d) [ ?serve=proxy ] the web server would use (a) and stream the corresponding mirror back to the client. We would need a documented recommendation for users based on version number. The true legacy would have to use (d). It defaults to a sane default which can handle the slow down of a mirror. It also lays the foundation for optimizing (d) if we need to manage the load across the mirrors in the case of proxying. Thoughts? I feel like we are getting to a point where we understand what our potential implementation paths are. *Will Stevens* PS - If you see this, you should consider coming to CCC in Miami. Travel assistance closes on March 8th!!! On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com> wrote: > 1) If the legacy implementations do not support redirects, that does cause > a problem. A potential solution in that case is to have the web server > actually proxy the download, but that is not ideal and I would like to > avoid it if possible. Thanks for bringing that up Chiradeep. > > 2) I think we need to have a single URL which people can target. Once > they make the switch to the new URL, we want the implementation to be able > to handle mirror failures without affecting the end client. We want to > avoid the situation where an ACS user will ever have to change this URL > more than once. Mirror failures SHOULD NOT affect the ACS users assuming > there is still at least one mirror who can serve the requested resource. > > These are obviously my personal opinions and others will probably have > differing opinions. > > *Will STEVENS* > Lead Developer > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Chiradeep Vittal <chirade...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> 1. If you are targeting legacy installations, they are not able to follow >> redirects. The line of code that added this capability was added on 11/16. >> 2. If you trust the users to edit the database to change the URL, you can >> trust them to change it to anything. Just document a known list of good >> template locations. >> >> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 8:13 AM, Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com> >> wrote: >> >> > So the main issue I see with this is the following. >> > >> > This implementation is designed to target legacy installations which >> will >> > be affected when download.cloud.com disappears. These people will >> need to >> > make a DB change to replace the 'download.cloud.com' with some other >> url >> > (maybe 'download.cloudstack.org'). Once the DB has been updated, we >> can >> > not expect anything else of the client, they need to be able to just >> > continue operation as they were without any need to rebuild or upgrade >> > their ACS. >> > >> > If we try to force the decision to the client, then we break the legacy >> > implementations. Since the SSVM is likely going to be the client in >> some >> > cases, and since it does not already have the logic to handle the 300 >> > approach correctly, I feel like it is not a viable solution for the >> legacy >> > deployments. >> > >> > In addition to that. I don't think the client is in any better >> position to >> > make the mirror decision than I am. I am likely able to make a more >> > 'educated' decision than the client would be able to because I can do >> > different tests on the endpoint(s) before making a final decision. >> > >> > Does this make sense or am I missing something obvious? >> > >> > *Will STEVENS* >> > Lead Developer >> > >> > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> >> > >> > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Rafael Weingärtner < >> > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > I think I understood you, but I did not understand you. >> > > >> > > Let me see if I can create an example to illustrate how we could do >> using >> > > the HTTP 300 code. >> > > >> > > The HTTP 300 code indicates clients that he/she/it has multiple >> choices >> > to >> > > access the requested resource. If the request is a HEAD, this is the >> only >> > > thing that the server returns. If the request if a GET, then the >> server >> > > returns the choices for the client. The response type is defined on >> the >> > > server based on the Content-Type, user agent and others. >> > > >> > > Let’s say the server receives a GET request and informs the >> content-type >> > as >> > > JSON (application/JSON). Your application could get the mirrors list, >> do >> > > the appending process for the requested resource path, and then >> return a >> > > JSON array with the possible mirror the client can use. Then, the >> client >> > > gets this list and does the processing required to select a mirror. >> > > >> > > Now let’s say that a human access the link using a browser. Then, the >> > > server should receive something like (text/plain) as the >> content-type; I >> > > think depending on the browser this field may differ a little (it >> would >> > > require some checking). Anyways, the server detects that it is a >> “human” >> > > requesting the resource, then we could serve an HTML page with a >> > Javascript >> > > that uses the mirror list. This Javascript could do some checking and >> > > choose the best mirror for that specific. >> > > >> > > Why do I think this approach is interesting? >> > > The application you developed would be used only to retrieve valid and >> > > trusted sources of system VM images (a trusted repository for mirrors >> > that >> > > we as a community vouch for). Also, we shift the decision process >> > > regarding mirrors from the server to the client. Then, it is up to >> > clients >> > > to select mirrors, and not up to us (or some of our implementations). >> > > >> > > Did this help? >> > > BTW: I am not saying I am against the way you proposed, which would >> work >> > > fine. It is merely a suggestion using a different perspective. >> > > >> > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Will Stevens < >> williamstev...@gmail.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > > @rafael: in general, I don't think the client should ever be making >> a >> > > > choice about a mirror. We have to assume we are working with a >> scripted >> > > > application and anything hard coded in that implementation on the >> > client >> > > > side is a risk. >> > > > >> > > > I may not be understanding the use of the 300 approach, so I will >> > > research >> > > > it to see if I can make it fit. >> > > > >> > > > On Mar 3, 2017 9:59 AM, "Rafael Weingärtner" < >> > > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Will great job. >> > > > >> > > > I had the same doubt as Daan. >> > > > >> > > > Have you considered using HTTP 300 working mode? Then, we could let >> the >> > > > client decide which mirror is the best(closest?). Section “10.3.1” >> of >> > [1] >> > > > talks about it; this would put the pressure on deciding upon a >> mirror >> > on >> > > > the client side, but I think it would be fair. >> > > > >> > > > [1] https://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html >> > > > >> > > > PS: You really like very short variables names! >> > > > >> > > > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 1:24 AM, Daan Hoogland < >> > > daan.hoogl...@shapeblue.com >> > > > > >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Nice little thing Will, >> > > > > >> > > > > One question: if I read the code correctly it ‘go’es and tries all >> > > > mirrors >> > > > > at once and whichever responses first is redirected to the client. >> > This >> > > > > might well be the same every time. This might be the one closest >> to >> > the >> > > > > mirror302 and not to the client. Is that correct or did I miss a >> > > weighing >> > > > > algorithm hidden in there? >> > > > > >> > > > > Good coding, >> > > > > >> > > > > On 03/03/17 00:23, "Will Stevens" <sw...@apache.org> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > Hey All, >> > > > > Please review this repo and tell me what you think: >> > > > > https://github.com/swill/mirror302 >> > > > > >> > > > > Let me know if you have questions or you would like me to make >> > > > changes >> > > > > before I bring this topic up with ASF Infra and open a ticket >> to >> > > get >> > > > > this >> > > > > implemented. >> > > > > >> > > > > Cheers, >> > > > > >> > > > > *Will Stevens* >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Will Stevens < >> > > wstev...@cloudops.com >> > > > > >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > I am building a short term solution right now. I hopefully >> > will >> > > > > have the >> > > > > > building blocks in place by the weekend so we can start >> working >> > > > with >> > > > > Infra >> > > > > > to get it in place. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > We will have a web server which we can point something like >> > > > > > downloads.cloudstack.org (or whatever url) at. Then we >> will >> > > have >> > > > > an ASF >> > > > > > repo which tracks a mirror list and exposes a static site >> to be >> > > > able >> > > > > to >> > > > > > query the mirror list. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > The web server will receive a request and will do a 302 >> > redirect >> > > to >> > > > > the >> > > > > > appropriate resource on one of the mirrors. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > This gets us started. Legacy environments will have to do >> a DB >> > > > > change to >> > > > > > change from 'download.cloud.com' to ' >> downloads.cloudstack.org' >> > > (or >> > > > > > whatever), but otherwise it should be pretty simple. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > We can improve how we deliver templates going forward, but >> this >> > > > > obviously >> > > > > > requires some discussion still. I will try to buy us some >> time >> > > > with >> > > > > an >> > > > > > implementation which solves our problems today... >> > > > > > >> > > > > > *Will STEVENS* >> > > > > > Lead Developer >> > > > > > >> > > > > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Abhinandan Prateek < >> > > > > > abhinandan.prat...@shapeblue.com> wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> Initial seeding is a manual step and that is not going to >> > change >> > > > in >> > > > > near >> > > > > >> future. A handy list of official places from where these >> > > templates >> > > > > can be >> > > > > >> downloaded won’t harm this part of the installation. Just >> > allow >> > > > > anyone >> > > > > >> credible who follows democratic process to publish their >> > > templates >> > > > > with >> > > > > >> apache’s blessings. >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> Coming to urls hard coded in db, the popular suggestion is >> to >> > > > point >> > > > > them >> > > > > >> to mirrors. This looks good but this is going to take some >> > > effort >> > > > > that has >> > > > > >> not materialised yet. Once this change is made it will be >> > going >> > > in >> > > > > some >> > > > > >> future release like 4.11; the problem still remains for the >> > > > > releases that >> > > > > >> are already out there. In case access to >> download.cloud.com >> > is >> > > > > dropped >> > > > > >> at some point we will have to document the procedure such >> that >> > > > > people know >> > > > > >> how to make these stable releases work. That is where the >> > > > procedure >> > > > > >> documented here https://shankerbalan.net/blog/ >> > > > > >> seed-cloudstack-templates-offline/ should be officially >> > adapted >> > > > > with a >> > > > > >> marketplace to pick up templates of choosing. Maybe we can >> > have >> > > a >> > > > > pre-setup >> > > > > >> script to make choices instead of written wiki. Note that >> this >> > > > will >> > > > > be >> > > > > >> anyway needed by the older releases. >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> On 01/03/17, 4:24 PM, "Paul Angus" < >> paul.an...@shapeblue.com> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >-1 >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >We are trying to get MORE people to use CloudStack. And >> > > raising >> > > > > the >> > > > > >> barrier to entry does nothing to help that. >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >Kind regards, >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >Paul Angus >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >paul.an...@shapeblue.com >> > > > > >> >www.shapeblue.com >> > > > > >> >53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK >> > > > > >> >@shapeblue >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >-----Original Message----- >> > > > > >> >From: Abhinandan Prateek [mailto:abhinandan.prateek@ >> > > > shapeblue.com] >> > > > > >> >Sent: 01 March 2017 09:39 >> > > > > >> >To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> > > > > >> >Subject: Re: Modern template hosting >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >+1 >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >After seeing this discussion running in circles several >> > times, >> > > I >> > > > > think >> > > > > >> we should at least get started with the simplest option. >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >On 27/02/17, 11:54 PM, "Chiradeep Vittal" < >> > > chirade...@gmail.com> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >>The alternative foolproof way is to simply not provide >> the >> > > > > automatic >> > > > > >> >>download. >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >>Just document the mirror list URL where the templates >> can be >> > > > > found. I >> > > > > >> >>don't know why people reject this option. >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >>https://shankerbalan.net/blog/seed-cloudstack- >> > > > templates-offline/ >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >>On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Will Stevens >> > > > > >> >><williamstev...@gmail.com> >> > > > > >> >>wrote: >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >>> OK. Thanks for the heads up. >> > > > > >> >>> >> > > > > >> >>> On Feb 27, 2017 1:08 PM, "Chiradeep Vittal" < >> > > > > chirade...@gmail.com> >> > > > > >> wrote: >> > > > > >> >>> >> > > > > >> >>> > Sounds workable. The downloader code in the SSVM >> won't >> > > > follow >> > > > > >> >>> > redirects I think. >> > > > > >> >>> > https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/blob/ >> > > > 5511065fc20787619d >> > > > > 9cd0444 >> > > > > >> >>> > a65a3 155fc9c921/core/src/com/cloud/ >> storage/template/ >> > > > > >> >>> > HttpTemplateDownloader.java#L93 >> > > > > >> >>> > https://goo.gl/dSi0r5 >> > > > > >> >>> > Might need to add >> > > > > >> >>> > client.setRedirectStrategy(new >> LaxRedirectStrategy()); >> > > > > >> >>> > >> > > > > >> >>> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Will Stevens >> > > > > >> >>> > <wstev...@cloudops.com> >> > > > > >> >>> > wrote: >> > > > > >> >>> > >> > > > > >> >>> > > We haven't opened a ticket yet because we don't >> have a >> > > > > strategy >> > > > > >> yet. >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > What do you guys think of this: >> > > > > >> >>> > > - We setup a new github repo in the 'apache' org >> which >> > > > > consists >> > > > > >> >>> > > of a >> > > > > >> >>> > single >> > > > > >> >>> > > file with a list of active/supported mirrors. >> > > > > >> >>> > > - I write a small web server, distributed as a >> binary, >> > > > > which can >> > > > > >> >>> > > be >> > > > > >> >>> > hosted >> > > > > >> >>> > > by ASF Infra. This web server will query the >> current >> > > list >> > > > > of >> > > > > >> >>> > > mirrors >> > > > > >> >>> and >> > > > > >> >>> > > will select one and then do a 302 redirect to that >> > > mirror. >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > The act of 'choosing' a mirror could be done in a >> > number >> > > > of >> > > > > ways. >> > > > > >> >>> > > - If we want to define an order, then it could just >> > try >> > > > > from the >> > > > > >> >>> > > top of >> > > > > >> >>> > the >> > > > > >> >>> > > list and work its way down. It would curl the >> target >> > to >> > > > > make >> > > > > >> >>> > > sure it >> > > > > >> >>> > gets >> > > > > >> >>> > > a 200 and if it does, it would do a 302 redirect. >> > > > > >> >>> > > - Or, if we want to distribute the load across the >> > > > mirrors, >> > > > > we >> > > > > >> >>> > > could >> > > > > >> >>> pick >> > > > > >> >>> > > from the list randomly. Again, doing a curl to >> verify >> > > the >> > > > > mirror >> > > > > >> >>> > > is up >> > > > > >> >>> > and >> > > > > >> >>> > > then doing a redirect. >> > > > > >> >>> > > - If we want to get fancy, we could do a reverse IP >> > > lookup >> > > > > and >> > > > > >> >>> > > try to >> > > > > >> >>> > match >> > > > > >> >>> > > the requester with their closest geographical >> mirror. >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > Thoughts? >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > *Will STEVENS* >> > > > > >> >>> > > Lead Developer >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Chiradeep Vittal >> < >> > > > > >> >>> chirade...@gmail.com >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > wrote: >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > What steps are needed to set up a mirror? What >> does >> > > > Infra >> > > > > need >> > > > > >> to do? >> > > > > >> >>> > Has >> > > > > >> >>> > > > anybody filed a ticket with Infra? >> > > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:17 PM, Raja Pullela < >> > > > > >> >>> > > > raja.pull...@accelerite.com> >> > > > > >> >>> > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > Hi will, >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > I believe, we didn’t get to close ‘getting a >> > mirror >> > > on >> > > > > Apache’ >> > > > > >> >>> > because >> > > > > >> >>> > > we >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > needed someone on the Apache Infra side to >> close >> > > this. >> > > > > BTW, >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > cloudstack-apt.get.eu (I think Nux manages >> this?) >> > > has >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > all/most of >> > > > > >> >>> > the >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > content. Once we can close on the Apache >> mirror >> > for >> > > > > hosting >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > the >> > > > > >> >>> > > > content, I >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > can help assist getting the content there. >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > For now, we have replicated the >> > download.cloud.com >> > > > > content to >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > ‘ s3.download.accelerite.com’. >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > Also, we are working on a set of >> steps/procedure >> > to >> > > > > help with >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > this change. I will update everyone in about a >> > > week’s >> > > > > time >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > on the >> > > > > >> >>> > details. >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > Best, >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > Raja Pullela >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > Engineering Team, >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > Accelerite, 2055 Laurelwood Road, Santa Clara, >> CA, >> > > > 95054 >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > On 2/24/17, 11:23 PM, " >> williamstev...@gmail.com >> > on >> > > > > behalf of >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > Will Stevens" <williamstev...@gmail.com on >> behalf >> > > of >> > > > > >> >>> > wstev...@cloudops.com> >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > unfortunately the template mirror conversation >> got >> > > > > caught up >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > in >> > > > > >> >>> > details >> > > > > >> >>> > > > and >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > nobody took the lead on implementing a >> solution. >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > citrix has been pinging me every couple months >> to >> > > say >> > > > > 'dude, >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > we >> > > > > >> >>> need >> > > > > >> >>> > to >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > remove the dependency on download.citrix.com', >> > but >> > > i >> > > > > have not >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > had >> > > > > >> >>> > the >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > cycles to get in and solve the problem. the >> > > shutdown >> > > > > of that >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > is >> > > > > >> >>> > > imminent >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > right now, so we need to solve it asap. >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > *Will STEVENS* >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > Lead Developer >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Paul Angus < >> > > > > >> >>> > paul.an...@shapeblue.com >> > > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Hi Nathan, >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Ideally, if you put the template location in >> (or >> > > use >> > > > a >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > template >> > > > > >> >>> > > defined >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > in) test_data.py then the actual location >> can >> > be >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > overridden by >> > > > > >> >>> > > anyone >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > testing. >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > For Trillian, we've copied all of the >> templates >> > > that >> > > > > people >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > have >> > > > > >> >>> > > define >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > to >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > a local repo and then replace the URLs in >> > > > > test_data.py to >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > reduce >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > bandwidth >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > use and download times. >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Ie: >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "bootableIso": >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > { >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "displaytext": "Test >> > Bootable >> > > > > ISO", >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "name": "testISO", >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "bootable": True, >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "ispublic": False, >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "url": "{{ >> > > > marvin_images_location >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > }}/TinyCore-current.iso", >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "ostype": 'Other Linux >> > > > (64-bit)', >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > "mode": 'HTTP_DOWNLOAD' >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > }, >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > I thought that we had come up with a solution >> > for >> > > > > >> >>> > download.cloud.com >> > > > > >> >>> > > , >> > > > > >> >>> > > > by >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > having a mirrorlist hosted in Community >> Apache >> > > > > 'space' with >> > > > > >> >>> anyone >> > > > > >> >>> > > able >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > to >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > out themselves forward as a mirror. >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > But I must admit I lost track of whether >> anyone >> > > made >> > > > > the >> > > > > >> >>> requisite >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > changes >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > in code.... >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Kind regards, >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Paul Angus >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > paul.an...@shapeblue.com >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > www.shapeblue.com >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N >> > > 4HSUK >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > @shapeblue >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > From: williamstev...@gmail.com >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > [mailto:williamstev...@gmail.com] >> > > > > >> >>> > On >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Behalf Of Will Stevens >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Sent: 24 February 2017 16:30 >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Subject: Re: Modern template hosting >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > this is a hard questions. in general, we >> should >> > > be >> > > > > setting >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > up a >> > > > > >> >>> > > mirror >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > on >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > some cloudstack/apache domain and then >> mirror to >> > > > other >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > provided >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > templates. >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > we MUST come up with a solution to deprecate >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > 'download.cloud.com >> > > > > >> >>> ', >> > > > > >> >>> > > > that >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > is going to be going away any day now. >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > i don't know the right way to solve this to >> be >> > > > > honest, but >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > if you >> > > > > >> >>> > > have >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > ideas, i am willing to help. >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > *Will STEVENS* >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Lead Developer >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Nathan >> > Johnson < >> > > > > >> >>> njohn...@ena.com >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > So not to re-open a can of worms, but I’m >> in a >> > > > > situation >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > where >> > > > > >> >>> I >> > > > > >> >>> > > need >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > to come up with a Marvin component test >> that >> > > > > depends on a >> > > > > >> >>> > template >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > based on a kernel that’s relatively new, >> i.e., >> > > > > newer than >> > > > > >> >>> Centos >> > > > > >> >>> > > 5.3 >> > > > > >> >>> > > > / >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > Ubuntu 10.04 . >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > I see openvm.eu has a suitable template >> > (Ubuntu >> > > > > 16.0.4 >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > for >> > > > > >> >>> KVM), >> > > > > >> >>> > > but >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > from looking at the thread "Migrating >> > CloudStack >> > > > > content >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > from download.cloud.com” it looks like >> there >> > is >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > resistance to using >> > > > > >> >>> > > this >> > > > > >> >>> > > > at >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > least for hosting system vm templates over >> > > > concerns >> > > > > of >> > > > > >> >>> > neutrality. >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > Would this be suitable for a component >> test? >> > If >> > > > > not, >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > what is a >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > “blessed” >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > template location? >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > Thanks in advance! >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > Nathan Johnson >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > R&D Engineer >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > 618 Grassmere Park Drive, Suite 12 >> Nashville, >> > TN >> > > > > 37211 >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > General Office: 615-312-6000 >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > website | blog | support >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > 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