Hi Wido.

sorry for late reply.  Thanks, that sounds great.

Yes we can move from SS to PS if we accept that once 4.12 is deployed with
updated code, in order to migrate a particular's VM iso, the VM needs to be
stopped & restarted. Then the iso will be recreated.

My suggestion would be merging in Config drive support and declare as
experimental in 4.11 , then people (ops and devs) can use it for
experimental use and give feedback and we can further harden it in 4.12 and
declare it as GA.
I think any other way won't work.

Let me know your view.

Thanks, Kris


On 14 December 2017 at 09:59, Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl> wrote:

>
>
> On 12/07/2017 03:17 PM, Kris Sterckx wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>> I would like to raise attention to 2 features which are pending 4.11,
>> which
>> received great appreciation from some of you and which from Nuage
>> perspective we see great interest to from large operators also. They are :
>>
>>     - Physical networking migration, or : Migrate networks to a new
>> physical
>>     network
>>     Jira : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-10024
>>     Design doc :
>>     https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Physi
>> cal+Networking+Migration
>>     PR : https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2259
>>     - Config Drive support :
>>
>>     Jira : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-9813
>>     Design doc : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-9813
>>     PR : https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2097
>>
>>
>> I would like to emphasis first that both features are generic solutions,
>> not tight to any SDN solution whatsoever.
>>
>>
>> Regarding network migration support : to anyone interested in this
>> capability, please review the design doc and/or the PR. The more buy-in we
>> get to this large amount of work we spent to this, the more appraisal you
>> give to the guys who spent the work. We hope to get this PR merged in
>> before end of the year.
>>
>>
>> Regarding config drive support : as already discussed in the Miami
>> Collaboration conference in May, this PR gives you fully standard
>> cloud-init support using the OpenStack configdrive datasource provider and
>> it works like a charm. We received very positive feedback to this. There
>> has been discussion about the storage strategy though and people voted for
>> storing the iso's at primary storage rather than at secondary storage.
>> There has been further work spent on this by Frank Maximus and there has
>> been some review of that but i am not sure we still want to include that
>> change still in 4.11. Frankly my proposal would be we take an incremental
>> approach and start larger validation cycles for the outstanding PR and
>> approach further evolution of it in the next release cycle. Open to your
>> feedback.  In any case I would find it a missed opportunity if config
>> drive
>> would eventually not find its way into 4.11 at all.  Again, we see great
>> interest in this.  Potentially we could declare it as experimental
>> support,
>> to be enabled via an advanced setting - just an idea. In that way more
>> people get can a sense of how it works and provide feedback. Another item
>> to notice is that as Nuage team does not have XenServer deployments, we
>> have no facility to verify the PR with XenServer. Helping out on that
>> would
>> be appreciated also.
>>
>>
> We could do it in two steps indeed. Move to PS in a later stage (if that's
> doable?).
>
> I would love to take a look at this as I'd love to see this feature in
> 4.11, but I'm very low on time to actually look at it.
>
> Wido
>
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Kris
>>
>>

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