Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
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Hmm... chicken and egg. How can one create a community around a one
man show hosted as SF.net? Furthermore, can there be a community
around a bunch of interface and their default implementations?
There can at least be community involvement. You are of course allready
working on that by discussing it on the list.You could take it further
by writting an RT about why you consider authentication being a core
concern for Cocoon (something that at least I probbaly would agree
about), how CoWarp solves it and why that is a good approach.
Not talking about the quality of the code, but about the interest
these interfaces can generate, especially when they're so simple that
they can already can be considered as "finished".
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And I think currently we have way too many blocks and adding another one
makes Cocoon even complexer. It seems everyone who has a good idea just
adds another block (with no or minimal community). Just adding a jar
dependency is much simpler from the complexity point of view.
It's not really here about adding a new block, but about providing a
simple and unified way of solving a common problem in Cocoon, which
the current pipeline-based auth-framework doesn't seem to solve (I
personally never used it).
The interfaces could be in core, along with the basic trivial
implementations, and blocks could provide specialized implementations
(e.g. JDBC, LDAP, JCR, etc).
Implementig the interfaces is also a kind of community involvement. And
by implementing them we migth get ideas about how to improve the
interfaces which would be simplified by making them part of Cocoon.
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Thinking further about it, I completely agree about that we have to many
blocks rigth now. But that is not an argument against adding more,
rather about removing or at least make optional, blocks that lacks
community support. You might remember
http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/BlockStatusPoll.
We could add more blocks, but it has to be based on community interest
or involvement, not like some of the abandoned one man shows from our past.
/Daniel
