Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:
Conclusion
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It should be noted that I haven't referred to any Cocoon specifics above. That is one of the neat things about the architecture. It is completely orthogonal to and independent of the rest of Cocoon and it could be used together with any servlet based web framework.
I suppose this is part of the problem and where my concern lies. I have no idea what trunk is anymore and how I'm supposed to build an application with it and from what I can tell there are only a few people who really do. I have been simply waiting for a maven 2 build so that I could run a small script from my desktop and have it download and install the parts I need. While all this stuff is probably really cool I still don't see how it addresses what I'm looking for. I don't want to be negative because I really like the premise of OSGi, but it really isn't one of the problems I needed solved at the moment:
a. No requirement for Cocoon users to download source
b. Build and deployment tools to allow customers to only download the Cocoon parts they want and their dependencies.
c. Build tool to allow customers to add their own customization.

Now if you can put what you have done into instructions on how to do the above I'll shut up. Sorry for venting, but it is just that IIRC we all agreed at the getTogether that the priority was to try to get a maven 2 build done by the end of the year for a 2.2M1 release. For quite a while I have felt that only 2 or 3 committers actually have any idea what is going on in trunk and no one else can help because they don't really know what to do. However, I have seen patches that were applied to 2.1 also applied to trunk, but I find myself wondering if they were actually tested there.

Please Daniel, don't take this personally as it isn't really directed at you. Part of it is directed at myself as I haven't had any significant amount of time to contribute to this work. I guess I'm just wondering if I'm the only one who is feeling this way? If so, I'll stop my whining.

Ralph





It is obviously not exactly as the block architecture that was designed a couple of years ago. But it is rather close and by reusing so much of OSGi we get a rather small implementation that can be interesting for other communities. Much of the surrounding infrastuture will be needed by other OSGi users, so much can be developed together with other communities.

WDYT?

/Daniel



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