Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:
Leszek Gawron skrev:
Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote:
Leszek Gawron pisze:
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I remember that I have read that discussion and I agree that there was no clear consensus.

I also remember that there were several folks expressing their opinion that jx should as far from imperative programming language as possible. I second that opinion so I'm quite concerned with your
example. It is a programming language.
XSLT lives without such constructs so could you give us a use case for this one?
We should leave the behaviour of JXTG exactly as is. The template framework (yes it actually is designed to be a framework even if we haven't used this) makes it easy to create a new template language. So if you don't like the way JXTG is designed you should design a new template language that has an own generator and an own namespace.

Who did you address this statement to? Me or Grzegorz?


Thing is last refactorings introduced backward incompatibilities. I tried to upgrade to next internal release and my webapp went nuts. By saying "we should leave the behaviour as is" you mean we should keep those incompatible changes?

I never used one like this :) Still the problem remains as not every cocoon user knows xslt and the example I gave would feel natural for him.

Nevertheless, we need to fix scoping now so we really need to gather some consensus when new local
context should be established.

My proposal is:

No new scope for:
- any plain xml element (namespaced or not). by plain I mean not macro invocation.
- jx:import without context set
- formatting instructions (jx:formatDate, jx:formatNumber)

New strict scope for (strict scope - no inheritance, still all cocoon.* should be available):
- jx:call (same for <macroName/> invocation)
- jx:import context="${bean}"
- jx:macro

New inherited scope for:
- jx:forEach
- jx:if ??
- jx:choose/jx:when/jx:otherwise ??

last two (jx:if, jx:choose) are currently NOT scoped.
We had a discussion about what to have in a new CTemplate language, see http://marc.info/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=110942299719102&w=2. Maybe it is time to review if the ideas there still holds and then continue the work on creating a CTemplate language.

Do you bookmark these? I never seem to be able to find the right thread to reference and you're always shootings with URLs. :)

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Leszek Gawron                         http://www.mobilebox.pl/krs.html
CTO at MobileBox Ltd.

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