Repeating myself just to make sure you're in full agreement; there would be multiple releases within your 2) state. ie) Maybe we genericize one method and then release [to take it to extremes].
Hen On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Stephen Colebourne <scolebou...@joda.org> wrote: > I agree with this. And I think it serves users better, many of whom > have migrated to Google Guava. > > 1) New bug fix only release, JDK 1.4 compatible > 2) New release with some generics, backwards compatible > 3) Re-evaluate whether an incompatible release makes sense > > Stephen > > > On 5 August 2011 07:12, Henri Yandell <flame...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I think we should move the current trunk off and call it generics-RnD. >> >> Then we should copy 3.2 over to trunk (or maybe 3.3, I seem to recall >> that prior to merging the generics in we had a 3.3 ready for release). >> >> We then release 3.3. >> >> Then we start 3.4. We genericize some tiny part of it in a binary >> compat way. Release. >> 3.5. Genericize a bit more. Release. >> 3.6... etc. >> >> We use generics-RnD code, pulling it over (and maybe deleting when >> considered happy). >> >> Somewhere around about 3.28 we can decide to start on 4.0, pulling >> over the remainder of generics-RnD. >> >> Hen >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Stephen Colebourne <scolebou...@joda.org> >> wrote: >>> I think that a key mistake was trying to do both generics and >>> refactoring. I'd suggest that quite a few users would simply like a >>> generified [collections] 3.5 that is fully backwards compatible (as >>> the JDK was) and with no refactoring. >>> >>> Now, some of the API cannot be generified correctly, so for a v3.5, >>> those should simply be left as raw types. >>> >>> Of course doing the above isn't fun, as it involves going back >>> (again), but it it probably the right approach. >>> >>> Stephen >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3 August 2011 16:01, Paul Benedict <pbened...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> Or do a pure generics release as 3.5 to satisfy that need... which >>>> allows 4.0 to have generics plus the benefit of major refactoring if >>>> necessary (could also be called 4.0 and 5.0). >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Matt Benson <gudnabr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> The most important theme IMO is generics. That's what has come up at >>>>>> work recently in fact. Everything else except showstopper bugs can >>>>>> wait IMO. >>>>> >>>>> Indeed, this seems to resonate with Hen's recent treatise on >>>>> (paraphrased) why the hell we take so long. >>>>> >>>>> Matt >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Gary >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Simone Tripodi >>>>>> <simonetrip...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi all guys, >>>>>>> I'm (re)starting having a good slot of spare time, I volunteered to >>>>>>> help Matt on finalizing the [collections] release, but after had a >>>>>>> look at the open issues I think we should agree on what including and >>>>>>> what not. >>>>>>> Does anyone already have a good overview/idea of collections roadmap? >>>>>>> Many thanks in advance, have a nice day!!! >>>>>>> Simo >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ >>>>>>> http://www.99soft.org/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>> Gary >>>>>> >>>>>> http://garygregory.wordpress.com/ >>>>>> http://garygregory.com/ >>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~ggregory/ >>>>>> http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org