We should start a separate ML thread of VFS. Gary
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 9:56 PM, Bernd Eckenfels <e...@zusammenkunft.net> wrote: > Hello, > > well I dont think we need to dig into the past, no matter if a RM is > assigned or not, a release will happen when people get around to do it. > And since the people who can do it are already overloaded it can get > tricky. > > And I think the biggest roadblock is the large number of changes which > have been implemented and which need to be ironed out in terms of > compatibility. (Clirr Report especially). > > Greetings > Bernd > > PS: in VFS-523 there are some open questions. I would like to go with > the removal. However I think with updated hdfs libraries the windows > tests do not work anymore, which makes it hard for me to test. > > > Am Sat, 29 Nov 2014 21:36:35 > -0500 schrieb <dlmar...@comcast.net>: > > > > > Sorry, I thought a RM had been assigned[1]. I don't think I have any > > patches for open tickets, the tickets that I am interested in > > (487,500,530) already have patches waiting to be applied. > > Additionally, if there are open issues w/r/t HDFS integration, then I > > can address them as well. The only HDFS related issues I see at this > > time are 523 and 530, both of which have patches. I can update 530 > > with a more recent version of HDFS before a release of VFS. > > > > I don't remember seeing a previous discussion regarding a 2.1 > > release. It's very possible I missed it or it was filtered. Please > > let me know how I can help. > > > > [1] > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/commons-dev/201407.mbox/%3CCACZkXPz > > M5a3PEqk8Yq6TJdued6bNLd_286xKeEqAeuNMv6Svyg%40mail.gmail.com%3E > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bernd Eckenfels [mailto:e...@zusammenkunft.net] > > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 3:21 PM > > To: dlmar...@comcast.net > > Cc: Commons Developers List > > Subject: Re: [ALL] Do we need help? > > > > Hello, > > > > I dont think we have a release manager for VFS, but I am still > > working on Bugs. If you have a patch for a Bug which affects you, > > please upload it to Jira. We can need all helps to prune them down. > > Right now we have 3 blockers open. 2 in the area of FTP which I do > > not have much experience with and one memory leaks where I am working > > on. > > > > Once those are closed or downgraded we can try a release. However > > last time I tried to start a discussion not much help was received. I > > suspect this might chnage when the first RC is put out and all the > > negative votes come in (there is a large Clirr report and while I > > think most of it is acceptable, I really think we need to talk about > > it). > > > > This is where Garys question comes in. Yes we might be a volunteering > > organisation, but certain things bottleneck on experienced people in > > the PMC. And I dont really know a way around this. > > > > Gruss > > Bernd > > > > Am Sat, 29 Nov > > 2014 15:27:02 +0000 (UTC) schrieb dlmar...@comcast.net: > > > > > > > > My 2 cents as an outsider, for what it's worth. I have contributed > > > code to VFS and we use VFS in Accumulo. I and several others have > > > asked for a 2.1 release, or at least a plan/roadmap so that we know > > > what has to happen before a release can occur. I even offered to > > > help in any way possible[1]. The answer I received was that a > > > release manager was assigned, but no other information. Since then > > > I have seen a bunch of other commons projects being released. I > > > figure that maybe they are dependencies and need to be released > > > first before a VFS release. > > > > > > Personally, I would like to remove the VFS objects from Accumulo > > > when VFS 2.1 is released. I know that we are also running into > > > VFS-487, which I spent some time updating the patch and verifying > > > the tests work. I would like to update the HDFS dependency to the > > > latest before the 2.1 release (VFS-530), but I don't know when that > > > is going to happen. I would also like to take advantage of some of > > > the fixes in 2.1, like VFS-500. > > > > > > I understand this is a volunteer organization and everyone is busy. > > > However, from my perspective, you have turned down an offer to help. > > > FWIW, I have thought about taking VFS 2.1-SNAPSHOT, applying the > > > patches I want, and creating a release for use on my project (not > > > Accumulo). > > > > > > [1] > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/commons-dev/201406.mbox/%3C42 > > > 3905266.3540581.1402347208157.javamail.r...@comcast.net%3E > > > > > > - Dave > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Gary Gregory" <garydgreg...@gmail.com> > > > To: "Commons Developers List" <dev@commons.apache.org> > > > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 7:42:35 AM > > > Subject: RE: [ALL] Do we need help? > > > > > > It feels overwhelming sometimes sure, but for me I just realize > > > that this is just a self inflicted feeling. We are all volunteers > > > here with no contractual or "hard" expectations. We could do better > > > at managing expectations for certain and recruiting new blood, yes. > > > But that takes time away from fun development tasks... I usually > > > ask for patches as soon as someone asks for a fix or feature. At > > > least that should make it more obvious to users and the community > > > that you get out of Commons what you put in to some extent. > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Benedikt > > > Ritter <brit...@apache.org> </div><div>Date:11/29/2014 05:53 > > > (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: Commons Developers List > > > <dev@commons.apache.org> </div><div>Cc: </div><div>Subject: [ALL] > > > Do we need help? </div><div> </div>Hi all, > > > > > > currently I feel really overwhelmed by the stuff I'd like to do at > > > commons and the little time I can spend for it. Here is an > > > (incomplete) list of the things I'd like to work on: > > > > > > - get a new release of the build plugin out of the door for auto > > > creating README.md and CONTRIBUTING.md > > > - Work on [VALIDATOR] and get a new release out of the door > > > - Work on [DBUTILS] and get a new release out of the door > > > - Push [lang] 3.4 out of the door > > > - Have a look at [compress] 2.0 > > > - Backport important fixes from [collections] 4.0 to 3.x and create > > > a last service update > > > - work on [text] > > > - help releasing [imaging] 1.0 > > > - Improve docs on how to get involved at commons > > > - Organize a logo contest for commons > > > - ... many more > > > > > > I wonder how you feel about this. I have the feeling that a lot of > > > people ask us to fix stuff and release components but we don't > > > really catch up with this. This will give people the feeling that > > > we are slow or we simply don't care. > > > Whenever I see someone posting on JIRA "can you please fix this, we > > > need this in out application" and nobody is reacting, I feel > > > tempted to jump right in, even if I don't know the component (which > > > adds another entry to the list above). > > > I don't see a way how we can improve this. My feeling is, that we > > > need more committers. But then I have the comments of people I've > > > talked to in my ear: "to old school", "to difficult to get > > > involved", "to slow development process", "to unwelcoming > > > community". So what do we do? Do we need help? > > > > > > I'm excited to hear your thoughts :-) > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Benedikt > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > -- E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com Home: http://garygregory.com/ Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
