On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 11:04:48 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
From the Peanut Gallery,
All of this discussion on (too many at once) [VOTE] threads suggest
to me that the [VOTE]s are premature.
I don't understand the inclination to conduct [VOTE]s here that are
at best straw votes and generally serve to establish that there is no
consensus because of all the qualifications that are placed on the
few
[VOTE]s that are apparently cast in the blur of discussions.
I think the key matter is that there is not enough discussion to
tease out consensus and even find opportunities for lazy consensus.
Then a [VOTE] becomes a formal ratification in those rare cases where
such a thing is required (e.g., to back up a personnel action or take
a resolution to the Board).
I think these discussions about clustering/splitting the Commons Math
components are very useful and interesting to observe. The use of
[VOTE] is worrisome and apparently useless other than for the
attention it evokes.
There was a vote because Jörg saw it as useful in order to decide
about the next step:
http://markmail.org/message/2lvirahwxerq36d2
How much longer should we rehash the same arguments from all sides?
The bottom-line of all this is that there are people (new and old
contributors to CM) who wish to do things, and everything that they
say _they_ will do is blocked by people who never contributed to CM
and do not intend to.
Gilles
- Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Gregory [mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 08:30
To: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [VOTE] New component: Rational numbers
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This (and new components VOTE thread) paints a more confusing
picture
than
before to me.
You are proposing to organize code into Commons Component/possible
TLP/Attic/Something based on the current knowledge of some
participants,
including yourself, and I am grateful that you've been doing all
this
work.
Part of me wants to stay out of the way and let the do-o-cracy play
out
but
another part really feels this will be counter productive in the end
(not
to mention a lot of busy work.)
As was mentioned by someone else before, people come and go, with
different
levels of expertise.
For me, the keep-it-simple principle, not to mention least surprise
says
to
keep whole the pile in one place, in Commons or as a TLP, either
way.
Whether we use more than one Maven module here or as a TLP is a
different
matter and not relevant to the residence of the code base. We have
other
Commons component that have multiple modules, no big deal.
Gary
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