I would love to see Kotlin and Java libraries in Commons. Gary
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 11:59 Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 at 08:50, Gilles Sadowski <gillese...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I certainly agree with Gary as to why "Commons" is not there being a > > practical issue (of no concerted road map and lacking developers to > > implement it). However, did I understand correctly that you consider > > such a development to be useless? I.e. rather than updating "Commons" > > do you suggest that application developers should not use it? > > I meant that writing Commons libraries for functional programming > still isn't possible with Java's limited generics and type system. I'm > talking about higher kinded types, dependent types, monads, functors, > etc. While there are some Java libraries out there that attempt to do > this [1] [2], there's no "natural" way to express type classes and > other functional programming concepts in Java. Considering the lack of > Kotlin and Scala libraries in Commons at the moment, I'd conclude that > this isn't the most appropriate place for functional programming > libraries at the moment. Or maybe more accurately, Commons doesn't > have any libraries for this yet (not like we're limited to purely Java > here). > > However, that isn't to say that Commons libraries can't offer anything > useful that relies on lambda functions, streams, completable futures, > etc., but that is a fairly limited subset of functional programming, > and any academic study looking at this should know that due to > familiarity with languages like Haskell where "real" functional > programming tends to take place still. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding > the point of this question entirely. > > [1]: https://www.functionaljava.org/ > [2]: https://www.vavr.io/ > > -- > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > >
