> On Apr 1, 2020, at 8:43 AM, Gilles Sadowski <gillese...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Le mer. 1 avr. 2020 à 14:33, Rob Tompkins <chtom...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:chtom...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2020, at 8:22 AM, Stefan Bodewig <bode...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2020-04-01, Gary Gregory wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The docs should also make sure that release tags are in the form rel/...
>>>> which makes them read-only.
>>> 
>>> So far I've created a new tag under rel/ for the RC tag when the vote
>>> has been accepted. So only "real" releases end up there.
>>> 
>>> If we want to create all our tags there, things may look a bit
>>> confusing. But I could live with that as well.
>> 
>> I would think we would only want to put tags that have a [VOTE] thread 
>> associated under rel/ because they are required to remain in the public 
>> domain.
> 
> A vote that *passed*, you mean (?).
> Everything that is not officially released is so-to-speak "internal".
> Is there any interest in having failed attempts made read-only?
> 

Yes, I would think we would want the code on which we voted kept as well as the 
emails. I agree the commits are kept in the [VOTE] thread, but those are 
technically mutable. If I understand correctly, [infra] has put a special 
restriction on our mirrors of GitHub such that tags with the prefix “rel/“ 
cannot be overwritten. Thus, the only way to ensure the history is permanently 
retained is to have it be under a tag with a “rel/“ prefix. We otherwise rely 
on the good will (which I do trust) of our committers to not force push over a 
branch or delete RC tags.

-Rob

> The "history" is kept through the ML archives (the "[Vote]" thread
> and its corresponding tag/commit).
> 
> Gilles
> 
>> I have, at times, found the need to delete a tag due to mistakes on my part. 
>> But, I’ve only done so if there has been no email [VOTE]. If there was an 
>> email [VOTE] in existence, then my move has been to increment the RC version.
>> 
>> My 2 cents,
>> -Rob
>> 
>>> 
>>> Stefan
> 
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