They choose to update not, no one forces updates magically, unless you
always pick up the latest by not specifying a version in a POM (bad
practice).

If they are still on Java 6 or 7, then updating libraries might not be a
priority.

Gary

On Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 07:27 John Patrick <nhoj.patr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Some customers might need to use Java 7, but what about the customers
> who want to use it on Java 17 which will be in rampdown in 5 months
> and released in 6 months?
> Also from memory from conferences ~ 2018/2019 I thought Java 17 was
> planning on removing the Classpath so everything needed to be Modules
> as well as raising the support min Java version to 8 or maybe even 11.
>
> Also I understand that some customers might still be running Java 6 or
> 7 or 8, but would they be actively upgrading to newer versions and if
> they have not found any bugs in the current version in the past ~10
> years will they find any new ones in next 16 months...
>
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 at 22:48, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 at 17:13, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 11:46 AM sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Note that Java 7 and later are all on lndefinite Sustaining Support:
> > > >
> > > >
> https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/java-se-support-roadmap.html
> > > >
> > > > This is presumably because there are customers who need Java 7.
> > > >
> > >
> > > And those paying Oracle customers are welcome to NOT upgrade to new
> > > versions or provide PRs and request releases.
> >
> > It's not just paying customers:
> >
> > "The Extended Support fee will be waived for the period June 2019 -
> > July 2022 for Java SE 7."
> >
> > I don't see any pressing need to move to Java 8.
> >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 at 16:18, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I do not see a reason to maintain EXEC and EMAIL on Java 7 at this
> point,
> > > > > it's simpler to maintain Commons builds locally, on GitHub
> Actions, and
> > > > > Travis CI by using Java 8.
> > > > >
> > > > > FYI, DAEMON is still on Java 6, presumably to support Tomcat. I
> will
> > > > start
> > > > > a separate thread about that, just to check status.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gary
> > > >
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