Calling it technical debt is pretty useful, too, because just like monetary debt, it can be useful to accumulate some in the short term for productive reasons, but if you don't pay it off and manage it properly, the interest payments begin to dominate expenses. Interest on technical debt comes in the form of what would normally be a five minute effort taking five months and three separate line managers to sign off on the budget to have it maybe deployed to production after the last 20 fires have been sufficiently extinguished. :)
On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 at 17:09, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > WRT rant: > We call that "technical debt" and to move the needle on that developers are > (sometimes or always depending on you company) asked to explain the > "business value" for spending the time (IOW the money) to do so. At which > point said developers roll their eyes, pull their remaining hair out, or > both, before being asked to go another "death march"... > > Gary > > > On Sun, Mar 28, 2021, 16:18 Thomas Schapitz <t...@online.de> wrote: > > > > If they are still on Java 6 or 7, then updating libraries might not be a > > > priority. > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > I second that. > > > > If an organization is still reluctant to upgrade at least to JDK 8, its > > rather unlikely that the same organization is urgently requiring to update > > to any latest commons release. > > > > And if they do in fact urgently require functionality, that is only > > available in a commons lib requiring JDK 8, it would be a nice incentive > > for finally considering an to upgrade at least to JDK 8. > > > > To me, Apache, especially commons, does a terrific job guarding BC, but in > > the end, trying to keep this up for the eternity will overstretch the > > communities resources, and it is breaking the stride. > > > > <RANT>On a more personal note: being 20+ years in the industry, I'm really > > fed up with organizations wanting me to build the newest, shiniest, > > fanciest crystal palaces of applications, while at the same time > > restricting me to use the tools from the stone age to achieve that, just > > because some oaf up there needs the money to upgrade the gadgets in his > > super yacht. You know, there is something wrong, when the model of the > > CEO's car is changing more frequently than the versions of your tools. > > > > Basically, an organization showing this behaviour is dumping their > > leniency as a debt into the community, so complaints about that shouldn't > > be taken too serious. > > </RANT> > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
