On 25 June 2015 at 06:53, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr> wrote: > Sebb, > > as main maintainer of current http://projects.apache.org/ (AFAIK), are you ok > with switching the url to the new service and renaming current service to > projects-old (to let use time to continue content migration withotu loosing > anything)? Do you see any show stopper?
The main item missing from projects-new is documentation - it currently points to projects. It's not immediately obvious how to provide data for the site. I think the main page needs to provide more of an overview. I think the first step needs to be to improve the projects-new documentation so it does not rely on the current project pages. Also I notice that it seems p-new relies on parsing http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html which in turn parses other data sources. That needs to be fixed. > Of course, I'm interested in your help to maintain the new projects site: > don't hesitate to comment on or change the code. > > Regards, > > Hervé > > Le dimanche 21 juin 2015 17:16:07 jan i a écrit : >> +1 switch as soon as possible, and then continue working on the data end. >> >> rgds >> jan i >> >> On Sunday, June 21, 2015, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr> wrote: >> > Le dimanche 21 juin 2015 15:54:29 jan i a écrit : >> > > On 21 June 2015 at 15:48, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org >> > >> > <javascript:;>> wrote: >> > > > On 2015-06-21 02:45, Hervé BOUTEMY wrote: >> > > >> for me, the new site is ready: there is of course room for >> > >> > improvements, >> > >> > > >> but >> > > >> it is stable and maintainable, waiting for contributions >> > > >> >> > > >> notice: I changed the wording to stop using "TLP", but use >> > > >> "Committee" >> > > >> instead, since TLP cause issues when trying to describe each projects >> > > >> (the >> > > >> software) as TLP or sub-projects >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> when doing the switch, we'll need to rename current site as projects- >> > > >> old.apache.org: there is some content to migrate (DOAP, >> > >> > documentation) >> > >> > > >> associated to communication with projects on the changes that has to >> > >> > be >> > >> > > >> decoupled from public vizualisation. I'll continue working on it. >> > > >> >> > > >> There one choice to do: continue serving the pages from current VM or >> > > >> serve >> > > >> through standard resilient httpds. The VM is useful for cron jobs, >> > >> > but is >> > >> > > >> not >> > > >> absolutely necessary for serving content since I removed online >> > >> > content >> > >> > > >> editing that caused the VM requirement for content serving AFAIK. >> > >> > Using >> > >> > > >> standard httpd will avoid SPOF or eventual load issue. >> > > > >> > > > What do you mean by 'standard httpd'? It already uses...standard httpd >> > >> > for >> > >> > > > serving the site. >> > > > The cron jobs are needed for updating various statistics and data on >> > >> > the >> > >> > > > site, they can't just be shut off - they also power >> > >> > reporter.apache.org. >> > >> > > Maybe I misunderstood something, I understood that we are using httpd, >> > >> > but >> > >> > > in our own vm. In my opinion it would be nicer to use the www.a.o httpd >> > > (sorry >> > > vms have been changing lately so I am not sure where it runs), since >> > > that >> > > would put httpd maintenance on infra instead of comdev. >> > >> > +1 >> > that was what I mean by "standard httpd" (ie not the binary but the >> > machines >> > where it runs) >> > >> > > > I think the site is ready for a more prominent role, but I find this >> > > > discussion confusing, and I find it somewhat sad that we're gonna >> > > > stick >> > > > with something as arcane as DOAP. >> > > >> > > +100 !! >> > > >> > > DOAP == Dead On Arrival Permanently :-) JSON == Jump Simply On New >> > > (but I know I am only 1 voice). >> > >> > step by step, please: this will avoid confusion between independant topics >> > >> > switching without disturbing current conventions/knowledge is something >> > that >> > already takes a long time and energy: I know it because I put a lot of >> > energy >> > on it for a few monthes now! >> > >> > We started a discussion on this source format topic during april, and >> > AFAIK >> > nobody worked on it. >> > >> > What I'd like now is to switch: we can discuss later on what we want to >> > change >> > (and communication to every comittees this requires). >> > With the new site, we'll be able to change formats if we want, the only >> > requirement is to have json files for the visualization >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Hervé >> > >> > > rgds >> > > jan i. >> > > >> > > > With regards, >> > > > Daniel. >> > > > >> > > >> but definitely, the site is ready for the switch >> > > >> >> > > >> Regards, >> > > >> >> > > >> Hervé >> > > >> >> > > >> Le vendredi 19 juin 2015 20:55:52 Sally Khudairi a écrit : >> > > >>> Hello Uli and the Apache ComDev team --I hope this message finds you >> > > >>> well. >> > > >>> Per below, I'm interested in promoting the new Projects page. >> > > >>> Can you please let me know if/when we're ready to do so? >> > > >>> Thanks so much, >> > > >>> Sally >> > > >>> >> > > >>> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >> > > >>> >> > > >>> From: David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us <javascript:;>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> To: Sally Khudairi <sallykhuda...@yahoo.com <javascript:;>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Cc: Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org <javascript:;>>; ASF >> > >> > Infrastructure >> > >> > > >>> <infrastruct...@apache.org <javascript:;>> Sent: Friday, June 19, >> > >> > 2015 11:50 AM >> > >> > > >>> Subject: Re: Is https://projects-new.apache.org/ ready for prime >> > >> > time? >> > >> > > >>> Hi Sally: >> > > >>> >> > > >>> projects-new.apache.org is a ComDev managed resource, not an >> > > >>> infrastructure managed resource. I think the PMC has had a >> > > >>> discussion >> > > >>> or two about when to migrate projects-new to projects.a.o >> > > >>> >> > > >>> --David >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Sally Khudairi >> > > >>> >> > > >>> <sallykhuda...@yahoo.com <javascript:;>> wrote: >> > > >>>> Hello Daniel and David --I hope you are both well. >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> I was wondering if the new Projects page at >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> https://projects-new.apache.org/ >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> was ready to be publicly deployed/announced/promoted. >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> There's so much great information there and it's an incredible >> > >> > resource >> > >> > > >>>> (I >> > > >>>> use it every week for the News Round-ups and we relied on it for >> > > >>>> the >> > > >>>> Annual Report), if there's no reason why it should still be in >> > >> > stealth >> > >> > > >>>> mode, I'd like to shout out about it from the rooftops. >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> Just let me know if we're good to go and if there are any >> > > >>>> disclaimers/caveats we should be aware of. >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> Warm thanks, >> > > >>>> Sally >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> = = = = = >> > > >>>> vox +1 617 921 8656 >> > > >>>> off2 +1 646 583 3362 >> > > >>>> skype sallykhudairi >
