On 10 July 2015 at 04:30, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 7:38 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 9 July 2015 at 22:20, Mike Kienenberger <mkien...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Mike Kienenberger <mkien...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> I noticed that the new reporter output now contains "LDAP" in a way >>>> that makes it sound like "LDAP" is the project name. Is this >>>> intentional? It seems awkward and unnecessary to have "LDAP" in >>>> there instead of "PMC", and when I read the first report containing >>>> that verbiage, I thought there was was copy&paste error in the report. >>> >>> As I read through the previous emails in the thread, I'm pretty sure >>> it was intentional. >>> My opinion is that it would be far more readable to state it like this: >>> >>> ============== >>> ## PMC/Committership changes (from LDAP): >> >> Perhaps, but PMC membership is not governed by LDAP committee group changes >> It is not unknown for the LDAP group to be updated a long while before >> (or after) the PMC membership changes (indicated by updating the >> committee-info.txt file). >> A person may be on the PMC but not in LDAP and vice versa. >> >> Therefore it is wrong for the site to equate the two. >> > > The above is strictly true, however, being in LDAP results in being > granted the karma for several things that a PMC member might need > (mail-search karma for a project, access to the projects private svn > tree, etc) > I don't think that the reporter site is looking to be a canonical > source of truth, so perhaps LDAP records are close enough.
Note that the Marvin bot unconditionally recommends using reporter.apache.org: "Chairs may use the Apache Reporter Service [3] to help them compile and submit a board report." I think it's important chairs know what sources are used by reporter. Note: if read access were granted to committee-info.txt as per INFRA-9942, then reporter.a.o could accurately report PMC membership; there would be no need to make assumptions about the LDAP committee groups. > Particularly since a committer account is LDAP based, so looking at a > single source of information for both PMC and committer stats, even if > not necessarily the canonical source of that information, seems at > least pragmatic, even though there is a chance of inaccuracy. >> [I am hopeful that the site will be able to use the correct source >> data eventually, but that is waiting on getting suitable access >> rights] >> >> There is a separate issue which is that not all PMCs equate committers >> with LDAP. For example, Subversion and Commons allow any ASF committer >> to update their SVN tree, so they don't maintain the group. >> Furthermore, I'm not sure the LDAP unix groups are used for Git-based >> projects. >> > > LDAP groups are used exclusively for git. > svn is a good deal more flexible from a permissions perspective. > > >>> - Currently 76 committers and 39 PMC members in the project. >>> - Hazem Saleh was added to the PMC on Fri May 15 2015 >>> - New commmitters: >>> - Bill Lucy was added as a committer on Tue Jun 23 2015 >>> - Ross Clewley was added as a committer on Mon May 18 2015 >>> - Thomas Andraschko was added as a committer on Thu Jul 02 2015 >>> - Dennis Kieselhorst was added as a committer on Mon May 11 2015 >>> ==============
