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> Ross Gardler <ross.gard...@microsoft.com> 於 2015年8月17日 16:24 寫道: > > Moderating first posts would be better. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:22 AM > To: Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> > Cc: ComDev <dev@community.apache.org>; Apache Infrastructure > <infrastruct...@apache.org> > Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF? > > This is a new subscription (send an e-mail to dev-log@community.a.o for > details) > > Perhaps we need to consider moderated subscriptions for this list. > >> On 16 August 2015 at 21:33, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote: >> This email echoing keeps happening. I thought we've dealt with it, no? >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: 田義忠 <name0905189...@icloud.com> >> Date: Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 1:27 PM >> Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF? >> To: "dev@community.apache.org" <dev@community.apache.org> >> >> >> >> >> 從我的 iPhone 傳送 >> >>>> Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> 於 2015年8月17日 04:25 寫道: >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> On 8/7/15 7:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: >>>>> Bill, >>>>> So I can release "Niclas Hadoop platform, based on Apache Hadoop" >>>>> ?? I thought the discussion a few years ago was that this was >>>>> misleading... >>>> >>>> No, you cannot. See our actual trademark policy: >>>> >>>> >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww >>>> .apache.org%2ffoundation%2fmarks%2ffaq%2f%23products&data=01%7c01%7c >>>> ross.gardler%40microsoft.com%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72 >>>> f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=DdcuJh%2bbhphaiy7yoW%2f2caG >>>> y15TIxfrsXg1V%2fHh9Jsg%3d >>>> >>>> Our release policy, as Roman originally asked about, applies only to >>>> ASF projects, and has no bearing on third parties. However our >>>> trademark policy, and trademark law, prevents third parties from >>>> publicly providing software using our trademarks. >>>> >>>> Our operational policies only apply to our projects, just like any >>>> other corporation. Some policies, like our license itself and our >>>> formal trademark policy, inform the rest of the world how they are >>>> allowed to use our websites, software code, and brands. >>>> >>>> Make sense? >>> >>> It does, but our relationships with downstream Linux vendors (just to >>> take the most obvious example) set a very confusing precedent. >>> >>> Shane, if would be super helpful if you took a look at: >>> >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs.org%2fsearch%2fhadoop&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ZXiKGbcB8ekfCts3JOcHVPYpX35xcqfr87Adbmf77%2f8%3d >>> >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs.org%2fsearch%2fmaven&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=bbku3kk8GRT8rNXWo5gwhRfpWIOoouH%2buNNzmrCpI0I%3d >>> >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs. >>> org%2fsearch%2fsubversion&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com >>> %7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db4 >>> 7%7c1&sdata=BEHyTF%2b6dOsaARgvSX3%2bp1gWPkiVjbg7wODXVv2tzA8%3d >>> and pubished your narrative of how the ASF branding policies apply in >>> both cases. >>> >>> The 3 projects I'm picking represent a pretty diverse set of cases of >>> how PMCs are conducting themselves. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Roman.