The recent spammers have used quite unusual e-mail addresses, with very long numbers in them.
On 19 August 2015 at 23:18, Ulrich Stärk <u...@spielviel.de> wrote: > So how would you distinguish a spammer's subscription request from that of a > valid user? I certainly > can't from looking at the email address alone. > > Uli > > On 17.08.15 14:46, sebb wrote: >> On 17 August 2015 at 10:52, Gavin McDonald <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote: >>> So I checked the config for dev@community and it is set up as a normal dev@ >>> list operates. >>> >>> Therefore anyone can subscribe to the list and post. >>> >>> The only thing we can do here is change it to subscription moderation - >>> that is an on|off switch so therefore >>> ALL subscription requests will have to be approved by a moderator. >>> >>> If you are ok with that I can make the change . >> >> +1 from me. >> >> >>> I checked the logs and it looks like a mod has removed the subscription for >>> the user in this thread. >> >> That was me, sorry forgot to let the list know. >> >>> Let me know, >>> >>> Gav… >>> >>>> On 17 Aug 2015, at 9:48 am, Ross Gardler <ross.gard...@microsoft.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Not sure if it's possible (you reply made me think I may be mixing up >>>> Google Groups features with our lists) >>>> >>>> Sent from my Windows Phone >>>> From: jan i <mailto:j...@apache.org> >>>> Sent: 8/17/2015 1:44 AM >>>> To: dev@community.apache.org <mailto:dev@community.apache.org> >>>> Cc: Roman Shaposhnik <mailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org>; Apache Infrastructure >>>> <mailto:infrastruct...@apache.org> >>>> Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF? >>>> >>>> On 17 August 2015 at 10:24, Ross Gardler <ross.gard...@microsoft.com >>>> <mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Moderating first posts would be better. >>>>> >>>> +1 to that solution (did not know that was possible), that way the >>>> moderators to not get overloaded with work. >>>> >>>> Alternative would be to allow apache ID, and moderate others. >>>> >>>> rgds >>>> jan i. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com <mailto:seb...@gmail.com>] >>>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:22 AM >>>>> To: Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org <mailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org>> >>>>> Cc: ComDev <dev@community.apache.org <mailto:dev@community.apache.org>>; >>>>> Apache Infrastructure < >>>>> infrastruct...@apache.org <mailto:infrastruct...@apache.org>> >>>>> Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at >>>>> ASF? >>>>> >>>>> This is a new subscription (send an e-mail to dev-log@community.a.o >>>>> <mailto:dev-log@community.a.o> for >>>>> details) >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps we need to consider moderated subscriptions for this list. >>>>> >>>>> On 16 August 2015 at 21:33, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org >>>>> <mailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org>> wrote: >>>>>> This email echoing keeps happening. I thought we've dealt with it, no? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>> From: 田義忠 <name0905189...@icloud.com <mailto:name0905189...@icloud.com>> >>>>>> Date: Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 1:27 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at >>>>> ASF? >>>>>> To: "dev@community.apache.org <mailto:dev@community.apache.org>" >>>>>> <dev@community.apache.org <mailto:dev@community.apache.org>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 從我的 iPhone 傳送 >>>>>> >>>>>>> Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org <mailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org>> 於 >>>>>>> 2015年8月17日 04:25 寫道： >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org >>>>>>>> <mailto:a...@shanecurcuru.org>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 8/7/15 7:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: >>>>>>>>> Bill, >>>>>>>>> So I can release "Niclas Hadoop platform, based on Apache Hadoop" >>>>>>>>> ?? I thought the discussion a few years ago was that this was >>>>> misleading... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No, you cannot. See our actual trademark policy: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww >>>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww> >>>>>>>> .apache.org >>>>>>>> <http://apache.org/>%2ffoundation%2fmarks%2ffaq%2f%23products&data=01%7c01%7c >>>>>>>> ross.gardler%40microsoft.com >>>>>>>> <http://40microsoft.com/>%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72 >>>>>>>> f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=DdcuJh%2bbhphaiy7yoW%2f2caG >>>>>>>> y15TIxfrsXg1V%2fHh9Jsg%3d >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Our release policy, as Roman originally asked about, applies only to >>>>>>>> ASF projects, and has no bearing on third parties. However our >>>>>>>> trademark policy, and trademark law, prevents third parties from >>>>>>>> publicly providing software using our trademarks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Our operational policies only apply to our projects, just like any >>>>>>>> other corporation. Some policies, like our license itself and our >>>>>>>> formal trademark policy, inform the rest of the world how they are >>>>>>>> allowed to use our websites, software code, and brands. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Make sense? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It does, but our relationships with downstream Linux vendors (just to >>>>>>> take the most obvious example) set a very confusing precedent. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Shane, if would be super helpful if you took a look at: >>>>>>> >>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs.org%2fsearch%2fhadoop&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ZXiKGbcB8ekfCts3JOcHVPYpX35xcqfr87Adbmf77%2f8%3d >>>>> >>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs.org%2fsearch%2fhadoop&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ZXiKGbcB8ekfCts3JOcHVPYpX35xcqfr87Adbmf77%2f8%3d> >>>>>>> >>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs.org%2fsearch%2fmaven&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=bbku3kk8GRT8rNXWo5gwhRfpWIOoouH%2buNNzmrCpI0I%3d >>>>> >>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs.org%2fsearch%2fmaven&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=bbku3kk8GRT8rNXWo5gwhRfpWIOoouH%2buNNzmrCpI0I%3d> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs >>>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs>. >>>>>>> org%2fsearch%2fsubversion&data=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com >>>>>>> <http://40microsoft.com/> >>>>>>> %7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db4 >>>>>>> 7%7c1&sdata=BEHyTF%2b6dOsaARgvSX3%2bp1gWPkiVjbg7wODXVv2tzA8%3d >>>>>>> and pubished your narrative of how the ASF branding policies apply in >>>>>>> both cases. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The 3 projects I'm picking represent a pretty diverse set of cases of >>>>>>> how PMCs are conducting themselves. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Roman. >>>>> >>> >>> Gav... >>> >>> ( ( ( >>> ( )\ ) )\ ) )\ ) ( ) >>> ) >>> )\ (()/((()/( (()/( )\ ) ( ) ( /( ( ( >>> ( /( ( ( ( >>> ((((_)( /(_))/(_)) /(_)) ( (()/( )( ( /( ( )\()))( ))\ ( >>> )\()) ))\ )( ))\ >>> )\ _ )\ (_)) (_))_| (_)) )\ ) /(_))(()\ )(_)) )\ (_))/(()\ /((_) )\ >>> (_))/ /((_)(()\ /((_) >>> (_)_\(_)/ __|| |_ |_ _| _(_/((_) _| ((_)((_)_ ((_)| |_ ((_)(_))( ((_)| >>> |_ (_))( ((_)(_)) >>> / _ \ \__ \| __| | | | ' \))| _|| '_|/ _` |(_-<| _|| '_|| || |/ _| | >>> _|| || || '_|/ -_) >>> /_/ \_\ |___/|_| |___||_||_| |_| |_| \__,_|/__/ \__||_| \_,_|\__| >>> \__| \_,_||_| \___| >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>
