the Apache Software Foundation was started in 1999. that makes it 20 years
old. in 2016, our committer survey indicated that women make up 5.2% of our
committer base. Black people make up 0.1% (one single person who responded
to the survey)

I think it's about time to admit defeat and try something else

if we want to strive for an inclusive, equitable organization, the
literature (see the first article I linked to) tells us that embracing
"meritocracy" as a core value works against that goal

On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 01:46, Dinesh Joshi <dinesh.jo...@yahoo.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Striving for an ideal is good. Doing away with it entirely feels like
> giving up on it and admitting defeat.
>
> Dinesh
>
> > On Mar 22, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Naomi Slater <n...@tumbolia.org> wrote:
> >
> > I suspect the answer is not to replace the word but to do away with it
> > entirely
> >
> >> On Fri 22. Mar 2019 at 21:28, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 9:59 AM Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 3/22/19 3:03 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> >>>> It would be very important to come up with a replacement that is
> >>>> as effective as what we're trying to replace. Frankly, I don't know
> >>>> a single candidate.
> >>>
> >>> As discussed elsewhere in the thread, simply coming up with a new word,
> >>> while potentially helpful in starting conversations, doesn't really
> >>> address the underlying problem. And each new word (do-ocracy is one
> that
> >>> has been proposed, for example) comes with its own set of concerns and
> >>> baggage.
> >>
> >> FWIW: the only word I can 100% embrace as a wholesale replacement
> >> of meritocracy is do-ocracy.
> >>
> >>> We have had the "what other word can we use" conversation at least once
> >>> on this mailing list, and at least one on members, in the last 2 years.
> >>> Neither conversation resulted in anything actionable.
> >>
> >> That's basically my point.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Roman.
> >>
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