> On Feb 4, 2022, at 8:51 AM, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
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> On 2/4/22 11:03, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> As I understand the ASF governance there are:
>> 1. Project Management Committees -> Projects. For example: Apache Logging.
>> 2. Products which are named artifacts from projects. For example: Apache
>> Log4J
>> 3. Releases which are released artifacts of a project’s product. For
>> example: Apache Log4J 2.17.1
>
> The word "Product" means something different to many consumers of software.
> We don't have products in that sense. We have projects and sub-projects.
(I came into Apache committership through Apache Jakarta POI. A project with
too many sub-projects. I think that there is an important distinction between
PMC and responsibility for Product vs. Project and sub-Project, but that’s an
orthogonal issue.)
We do have products. The Brand committee makes the distinction between projects
and products. See https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/ for example.
>
> I seem to remember struggling with this specific naming decision when the
> projects.a.o site was first put up.
This was setup in the PRC, correct? (IIRC - PRC was split into comdev,
conference, trademark, and press about 12 years ago)
>
> That said ... patches welcome.
Sure - I included press@ because this site is an important reference for them.
>
>> But on the https://projects.apache.org website the corresponding three items
>> are called:
>> 1. Committees.
>> 2. Projects.
>> 3. Releases.
>> I suspect that this “confusion” is due to a combination of the split of the
>> PRC committee and the former time of supper projects like Apache Jakarta.
>> This ought to be adjusted somehow because it leads to misunderstanding about
>> responsibility.
>> All The Best,
>> Dave
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