Hi
Is the move to the new privacy policy interesting enough to be added to the 
bullet points? It’s a boring topic topic too many but maybe worth to mention 
due to its impact on websites
Cheers

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V.P., Data Privacy

On Mon, May 2, 2022, at 17:03, Josh Fischer wrote:
> Gotcha.  I’ll send it out tomorrow!
>
> On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 9:49 AM Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 10:39 AM Josh Fischer <j...@joshfischer.io> wrote:
>> >
>> > I remember us agreeing to send it out on May 5.  Since I'm not a member,
>> > I'll leave that up to either Rich or Sam to send out.
>>
>> I had sent the last one out on the first Tuesday of the month, which
>> happened to be the 5th last month.  I'd recommend following a similar
>> pattern as that will avoid weekends.  For some months, this may need
>> to be adjusted for holidays.
>>
>> To me, one of the purposes of this exercise is to see if someone other
>> than the usual hyper-volunteers steps up, so I won't be sending the
>> email.
>>
>> But I am a moderator for that list, and if I see content that matches
>> the wiki page in the moderation queue this week, I will approve it.
>> Whether the person sending it is an ASF member or not won't affect
>> whether or not I approve the content.
>>
>> - Sam Ruby
>>
>> > Thank ya
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 9:21 AM Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > The last one we sent, Sam sent directly to the members-notify list -
>> > > which does, indeed, need to be done by a member.
>> > >
>> > > I've added one more (member-specific) item to the highlights. I feel
>> > > like we're missing something important, but I cannot remember what it
>> > > is.
>> > >
>> > > What is our send date?
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, 2022-05-02 at 08:57 -0500, Josh Fischer wrote:
>> > > > The newsletter has been updated and just about ready for sending
>> > > > out.. Not
>> > > > sure of the whos or hows of getting this across the foundation.  Is
>> > > > there
>> > > > a preferred way that I can get this distributed?  Is this something
>> > > > only
>> > > > a member can/should do?
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 4:20 PM Josh Fischer <j...@joshfischer.io>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > We have room for another bullet point or two if anyone wants to add
>> > > > > anything to the critical committer communications letter.   We have
>> > > > > about
>> > > > > two weeks before it will be sent out. Link below.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=210078929
>> > > > >
>> > > > > - Josh
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:32 AM Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 10:30 AM Josh Fischer
>> > > > > > <j...@joshfischer.io> wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Created a starter with a few fun facts here:
>> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/0YyFD
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Feel free to add or take away as you see fit.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > THANK YOU!
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > - Josh
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > - Sam Ruby
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 8:40 AM Sam Ruby
>> > > > > > > <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Message has been posted.  Next time it probably should be a
>> > > > > > > > pure plain
>> > > > > > > > text version.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Anybody want to get started on May?  Create the wiki page,
>> > > > > > > > put some
>> > > > > > > > content there, and then send it out the first week in May
>> > > > > > > > after others
>> > > > > > > > have been given the opportunity to contribute.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > - Sam Ruby
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:01 AM Rich Bowen
>> > > > > > > > <rbo...@rcbowen.com>
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Problem: Members (and, more generally, committers) are less
>> > > > > > > > > engaged
>> > > > > > with
>> > > > > > > > > the larger Foundation than at any point in our history.
>> > > > > > > > > Meanwhile,
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > mechanisms for getting more engaged (eg, the members
>> > > > > > > > > mailing list)
>> > > > > > are a
>> > > > > > > > > firehose of unrelated content that is very frustrating to
>> > > > > > > > > the casual
>> > > > > > > > > participant - even those who desire a deeper engagement -
>> > > > > > > > > and, in
>> > > > > > > > > practice, are completely off-putting. Committers,
>> > > > > > > > > meanwhile, have no
>> > > > > > > > > real avenue, outside of their project, for further
>> > > > > > > > > engagement.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > I've been struggling with ways to address this for years,
>> > > > > > > > > and they
>> > > > > > all
>> > > > > > > > > tend to founder on the rocks of "People should just be
>> > > > > > > > > doing X!"
>> > > > > > which,
>> > > > > > > > > in each case, is true, but also dismissive and ultimately
>> > > > > > > > > unhelpful.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > I would like to propose that we are more proactive about
>> > > > > > > > > reaching
>> > > > > > out to
>> > > > > > > > > our community in tiny, consumable bites, that hint at a
>> > > > > > > > > larger feast
>> > > > > > > > > that they're missing out on.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Here's my proposal, but I cannot (and will not) tackle this
>> > > > > > > > > alone,
>> > > > > > > > > because that guarantees failure, which guaranteed less
>> > > > > > participation the
>> > > > > > > > > next time we suggest something like this.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Proposal/Brainstorming doc:
>> > > > > > https://hackmd.io/JaLaGy56T8qT3ODABLVswA
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > It's an intentionally simple idea - a minimum viable idea,
>> > > > > > > > > one
>> > > > > > might say.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > I want to know who's going to help make it a reality. Not
>> > > > > > particularly
>> > > > > > > > > interested in "that's a great idea", as much as "I will
>> > > > > > > > > help make it
>> > > > > > > > > happen."
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > This will involve engagement with Events, M&P, and Board,
>> > > > > > > > > at a
>> > > > > > minimum,
>> > > > > > > > > but over time we'd hopefully engage everyone at the
>> > > > > > > > > Foundation in
>> > > > > > > > > content creation. But, even then, I want to keep this tiny
>> > > > > > > > > and
>> > > > > > > > > consumable - content that you can absorb in 2-5 minutes,
>> > > > > > > > > always
>> > > > > > with a
>> > > > > > > > > "to get more engaged ..." call to action aspect to it.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Come help me develop community.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > --Rich
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
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