Brian, The discussion is in the mailing list as I mentioned, we can continue there.
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: > Well, hold on, mailing list is totally a valid place for discussion! > The issue tracker is where stuff thats been agreed upon should happen. > That said, I think we agree we'd like a path for project generation. > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Michal Mocny <mmo...@chromium.org> wrote: > > Agree with Shaz, most of these thoughts already addressed in that bug. > > Please add further opinions about specifics there. > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Might be worth chiming in on the CB-4153 thread on this ML ("app" folder > >> concept) > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: > >> > >> > In an earlier incarnation of Cordova the CLI had a a --recipe flag. > That > >> > could be modified to accept a path or a Git repo. This would retain > the > >> > existing and fulfill Ray's use case. > >> > > >> > Thoughts? > >> > On Jul 12, 2013 7:34 AM, "Lucas Holmquist" <lholm...@redhat.com> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > +1 to keeping the default template, but the ability to change it if > >> you > >> > > want to > >> > > On Jul 12, 2013, at 10:18 AM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > Carlos I think that is essentially what others have proposed here > - > >> > > specify > >> > > > a template to use. > >> > > > > >> > > > Personally I like the default project to still be the default, if > >> only > >> > > for > >> > > > the majority of our users who are not more experienced > programmers. > >> > More > >> > > > experienced programmers will not be put off by specifying a > template > >> > > option > >> > > > for a blank template, IMO (but for less experienced people, I > contend > >> > it > >> > > is > >> > > > the reverse). > >> > > > > >> > > > While helping users troubleshoot in the Google Groups, or > >> investigating > >> > > > bugs in JIRA, I often tell a user to create a new project (thus > using > >> > the > >> > > > default template) and isolate their bug there, so we have a common > >> base > >> > > to > >> > > > verify and test bugs. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Carlos Santana < > >> csantan...@gmail.com > >> > > >wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > >> can it be an option to the cordova cli? > >> > > >> cordova create [--noHelloApp] > >> > > >> or > >> > > >> cordova create [--blankIndexHTML] > >> > > >> > >> > > >> You get the point > >> > > >> > >> > > >> I vote for default to have defaultApp included. > >> > > >> It provides gratification of every "Hello World" gives when > starting > >> > > with > >> > > >> something new. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:26 AM, Michael Jackson < > >> > mjijack...@gmail.com > >> > > >>> wrote: > >> > > >> > >> > > >>> I really like the default app. As a brand new cordova dev it > helped > >> > me > >> > > >>> understand how to get started with it. > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> -- > >> > > >>> Michael Jackson > >> > > >>> @mjackson > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Ray Camden < > rayca...@adobe.com> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>>> I can add this as a Jira item if it makes sense, but, what do > >> folks > >> > > >> think > >> > > >>>> about the following: > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> I'd like to propose that the 'default' PG app created by the > CLI > >> be > >> > > >>>> changed. Right now it is cool. Looks neat. But is completely > >> > > >> unnecessary > >> > > >>>> after you've after learned how to use PG. It's a great example > for > >> > > >> folks > >> > > >>>> learning PG, but for those of us who know and just want to get > >> > started > >> > > >>>> quickly, it actually takes me more time to *remove* the HTML, > CSS, > >> > and > >> > > >> JS > >> > > >>>> used in the default then it does to create a new project. Not > to > >> be > >> > > >> over > >> > > >>>> dramatic, but it really is the worst part of the process for > me. > >> > Then > >> > > >>>> again, I tend to make quite a few POCs with the CLI so this > issue > >> > hits > >> > > >> me > >> > > >>>> more often than normal probably. > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> I know the CLI is just copying a template (I've blogged on this > >> > > >> before), > >> > > >>>> but shouldn't the default be something better for developers? > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> -- > >> > > >> Carlos Santana > >> > > >> <csantan...@gmail.com> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> >