My bad, sorry for the mixup.
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: > Indeed you did. I was responding to Michal. > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Brian, The discussion is in the mailing list as I mentioned, we can > > continue there. > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: > > > >> Well, hold on, mailing list is totally a valid place for discussion! > >> The issue tracker is where stuff thats been agreed upon should happen. > >> That said, I think we agree we'd like a path for project generation. > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Michal Mocny <mmo...@chromium.org> > wrote: > >> > Agree with Shaz, most of these thoughts already addressed in that bug. > >> > Please add further opinions about specifics there. > >> > > >> > > >> > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Might be worth chiming in on the CB-4153 thread on this ML ("app" > folder > >> >> concept) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > In an earlier incarnation of Cordova the CLI had a a --recipe flag. > >> That > >> >> > could be modified to accept a path or a Git repo. This would retain > >> the > >> >> > existing and fulfill Ray's use case. > >> >> > > >> >> > Thoughts? > >> >> > On Jul 12, 2013 7:34 AM, "Lucas Holmquist" <lholm...@redhat.com> > >> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > +1 to keeping the default template, but the ability to change > it if > >> >> you > >> >> > > want to > >> >> > > On Jul 12, 2013, at 10:18 AM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Carlos I think that is essentially what others have proposed > here > >> - > >> >> > > specify > >> >> > > > a template to use. > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > Personally I like the default project to still be the default, > if > >> >> only > >> >> > > for > >> >> > > > the majority of our users who are not more experienced > >> programmers. > >> >> > More > >> >> > > > experienced programmers will not be put off by specifying a > >> template > >> >> > > option > >> >> > > > for a blank template, IMO (but for less experienced people, I > >> contend > >> >> > it > >> >> > > is > >> >> > > > the reverse). > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > While helping users troubleshoot in the Google Groups, or > >> >> investigating > >> >> > > > bugs in JIRA, I often tell a user to create a new project (thus > >> using > >> >> > the > >> >> > > > default template) and isolate their bug there, so we have a > common > >> >> base > >> >> > > to > >> >> > > > verify and test bugs. > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Carlos Santana < > >> >> csantan...@gmail.com > >> >> > > >wrote: > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > >> can it be an option to the cordova cli? > >> >> > > >> cordova create [--noHelloApp] > >> >> > > >> or > >> >> > > >> cordova create [--blankIndexHTML] > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> You get the point > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> I vote for default to have defaultApp included. > >> >> > > >> It provides gratification of every "Hello World" gives when > >> starting > >> >> > > with > >> >> > > >> something new. > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:26 AM, Michael Jackson < > >> >> > mjijack...@gmail.com > >> >> > > >>> wrote: > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>> I really like the default app. As a brand new cordova dev it > >> helped > >> >> > me > >> >> > > >>> understand how to get started with it. > >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> -- > >> >> > > >>> Michael Jackson > >> >> > > >>> @mjackson > >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Ray Camden < > >> rayca...@adobe.com> > >> >> > > wrote: > >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>>> I can add this as a Jira item if it makes sense, but, what > do > >> >> folks > >> >> > > >> think > >> >> > > >>>> about the following: > >> >> > > >>>> > >> >> > > >>>> I'd like to propose that the 'default' PG app created by the > >> CLI > >> >> be > >> >> > > >>>> changed. Right now it is cool. Looks neat. But is completely > >> >> > > >> unnecessary > >> >> > > >>>> after you've after learned how to use PG. It's a great > example > >> for > >> >> > > >> folks > >> >> > > >>>> learning PG, but for those of us who know and just want to > get > >> >> > started > >> >> > > >>>> quickly, it actually takes me more time to *remove* the > HTML, > >> CSS, > >> >> > and > >> >> > > >> JS > >> >> > > >>>> used in the default then it does to create a new project. > Not > >> to > >> >> be > >> >> > > >> over > >> >> > > >>>> dramatic, but it really is the worst part of the process for > >> me. > >> >> > Then > >> >> > > >>>> again, I tend to make quite a few POCs with the CLI so this > >> issue > >> >> > hits > >> >> > > >> me > >> >> > > >>>> more often than normal probably. > >> >> > > >>>> > >> >> > > >>>> I know the CLI is just copying a template (I've blogged on > this > >> >> > > >> before), > >> >> > > >>>> but shouldn't the default be something better for > developers? > >> >> > > >>>> > >> >> > > >>>> > >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> -- > >> >> > > >> Carlos Santana > >> >> > > >> <csantan...@gmail.com> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >