Indeed you did. I was responding to Michal.
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > Brian, The discussion is in the mailing list as I mentioned, we can > continue there. > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: > >> Well, hold on, mailing list is totally a valid place for discussion! >> The issue tracker is where stuff thats been agreed upon should happen. >> That said, I think we agree we'd like a path for project generation. >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Michal Mocny <mmo...@chromium.org> wrote: >> > Agree with Shaz, most of these thoughts already addressed in that bug. >> > Please add further opinions about specifics there. >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Might be worth chiming in on the CB-4153 thread on this ML ("app" folder >> >> concept) >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: >> >> >> >> > In an earlier incarnation of Cordova the CLI had a a --recipe flag. >> That >> >> > could be modified to accept a path or a Git repo. This would retain >> the >> >> > existing and fulfill Ray's use case. >> >> > >> >> > Thoughts? >> >> > On Jul 12, 2013 7:34 AM, "Lucas Holmquist" <lholm...@redhat.com> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > +1 to keeping the default template, but the ability to change it if >> >> you >> >> > > want to >> >> > > On Jul 12, 2013, at 10:18 AM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > > Carlos I think that is essentially what others have proposed here >> - >> >> > > specify >> >> > > > a template to use. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Personally I like the default project to still be the default, if >> >> only >> >> > > for >> >> > > > the majority of our users who are not more experienced >> programmers. >> >> > More >> >> > > > experienced programmers will not be put off by specifying a >> template >> >> > > option >> >> > > > for a blank template, IMO (but for less experienced people, I >> contend >> >> > it >> >> > > is >> >> > > > the reverse). >> >> > > > >> >> > > > While helping users troubleshoot in the Google Groups, or >> >> investigating >> >> > > > bugs in JIRA, I often tell a user to create a new project (thus >> using >> >> > the >> >> > > > default template) and isolate their bug there, so we have a common >> >> base >> >> > > to >> >> > > > verify and test bugs. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Carlos Santana < >> >> csantan...@gmail.com >> >> > > >wrote: >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> can it be an option to the cordova cli? >> >> > > >> cordova create [--noHelloApp] >> >> > > >> or >> >> > > >> cordova create [--blankIndexHTML] >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> You get the point >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> I vote for default to have defaultApp included. >> >> > > >> It provides gratification of every "Hello World" gives when >> starting >> >> > > with >> >> > > >> something new. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:26 AM, Michael Jackson < >> >> > mjijack...@gmail.com >> >> > > >>> wrote: >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >>> I really like the default app. As a brand new cordova dev it >> helped >> >> > me >> >> > > >>> understand how to get started with it. >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> -- >> >> > > >>> Michael Jackson >> >> > > >>> @mjackson >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Ray Camden < >> rayca...@adobe.com> >> >> > > wrote: >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>>> I can add this as a Jira item if it makes sense, but, what do >> >> folks >> >> > > >> think >> >> > > >>>> about the following: >> >> > > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> I'd like to propose that the 'default' PG app created by the >> CLI >> >> be >> >> > > >>>> changed. Right now it is cool. Looks neat. But is completely >> >> > > >> unnecessary >> >> > > >>>> after you've after learned how to use PG. It's a great example >> for >> >> > > >> folks >> >> > > >>>> learning PG, but for those of us who know and just want to get >> >> > started >> >> > > >>>> quickly, it actually takes me more time to *remove* the HTML, >> CSS, >> >> > and >> >> > > >> JS >> >> > > >>>> used in the default then it does to create a new project. Not >> to >> >> be >> >> > > >> over >> >> > > >>>> dramatic, but it really is the worst part of the process for >> me. >> >> > Then >> >> > > >>>> again, I tend to make quite a few POCs with the CLI so this >> issue >> >> > hits >> >> > > >> me >> >> > > >>>> more often than normal probably. >> >> > > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> I know the CLI is just copying a template (I've blogged on this >> >> > > >> before), >> >> > > >>>> but shouldn't the default be something better for developers? >> >> > > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> -- >> >> > > >> Carlos Santana >> >> > > >> <csantan...@gmail.com> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >>