Kind of a chicken/egg problem. Will this cleanly merge or should we just
force push it in?


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 7:42 AM, David Kemp <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm happy to put the bb-test code into the official repo.
> I was hoping to do that soon but I do not think I am an official committer
> yet.
>
> As for USB hubs, the 2.1A one that I picked up has recently stopped working
> on the 2.1A port.
> I need to get it returned and replaced, but probably cannot recommend it
> right now since the first one stopped working right after only about 3
> weeks. When it was working it was awesome.
>
> Keeping iPads and tablets charged is definitely the hard part.
> Pretty much all the phones happily stay charged on a 500mA USB port.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Mike Billau <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Sergey,
> >
> > We have been using David's Medic++ over here without too many issues.
> > (Moving the master to a linux box was key.) The setup was pretty easy
> once
> > you get Buildbot installed.
> >
> > I'm not sure how much effort it would take to add Windows platforms
> > support, but it doesn't seem like that much. I think that you pretty much
> > just need to follow the examples of the other two platforms and write
> > BuildBot commands (in Python) to shell out to the lower level dev tools
> to
> > create the project and deploy on your devices:
> > https://github.com/drkemp/bb-test/blob/master/master.cfg#L132
> >
> > I think the next steps should be something like:
> >
> > 1. Set up a centralized couchDB where we can aggregate data from all of
> the
> > CI instances. A few months ago I requested a VM for this purpose and it
> > looks like we will get it soon:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6422
> > 2. Need a dashboard to view all of the results
> > 3. Set up reporting so that the CI actually gets used (email devs who
> break
> > builds, possibly IRC bot, would be nice to have a TravisCI style badge on
> > the github pages, etc.)
> > 4. Documentation - there should at least be instructions to help others
> > quickly set up a CI and feed data back to the community (David's
> readme.md
> > ?)
> > There should also be docs about setting up the device wall, which USB
> hubs
> > are the best to buy*, etc
> >
> > After those three immediate issues get resolved, I think the CI will
> start
> > to really provide a lot of value to the community and the project. After
> > that happens, we can talk about more long term goals and feature
> > enhancements. The biggest enhancement I can think of would be the ability
> > to run personal builds against the test devices and get feedback before
> > checking in code. I'm sure there are a lot of other things we can do too,
> > like adding in the rest of the platforms, exercising the native tests,
> > making the system more robust, etc.
> >
> > David, what do you think about pushing your bb-test branch into the
> > cordova-medic repo? We can put Fil's old stuff into a branch for safe
> > keeping, but it seems like we should all be concentrating on the same
> > version of medic, and your buildbot branch is clearly the most complete
> and
> > working version. Having it in the official repo would make it easier for
> > people to find and contribute to.
> >
> > Mike Billau
> >
> > *For USB hubs, we have been daisy chaining these hubs and have only had
> > charging issues with Samsung tablets:
> >
> http://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Charger-Adapter-Charges-Kindle/dp/B005P2BY5I
> >
> > David has been using these ones that have a 2.1A port for iPad charging
> (we
> > haven't yet seen the iPads discharge ):
> >
> >
> http://www.amazon.ca/Release-Charging-Adapter-3-5-foot-Included/dp/B00B7FLPBU/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
> > I think part of the medic documentation should definitely have a
> discussion
> > about USB hubs because this is a difficult and potentially very expensive
> > part of setting up medic.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:47 AM, David Kemp <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Sergey,
> > > Yes that is the only change to mobilespec regarding medic. It simply
> > allows
> > > the automated test components to be installed as a plugin without
> editing
> > > any source files other than config.xml.
> > >
> > > There is a separate discussion going on about changing mobilespec to a
> > > wrapper that gets tests out of plugins (since thats mostly what it
> > tests),
> > > but even that would not significantly change how the CI system
> operates,
> > > just how the test app is built.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Sergey Grebnov (Akvelon) <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi David,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for the very valuable input. As per " I recent made a
> change
> > to
> > > > mobilespec to support a medic plugin to make the insertion of
> testing a
> > > bit
> > > > smoother. " Do you refer to the following changes? Are there other
> > > changes
> > > > in this direction in mobile-spec?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/cordova-mobile-spec/commit/de23e302daefcfac603fc992e41467d43ae40d87
> > > >
> > > > Thx!
> > > > Sergey
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: David Kemp [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 5:06 PM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: Medic status and plans
> > > >
> > > > More info...
> > > >
> > > > The system I am using uses buildbot which has a master controller
> that
> > > > provides a web interface, moitors the git repos and generally manages
> > > > things. When it detects a need for a build, it communicates with
> > > > build-slaves to run the tests and report back.
> > > >
> > > > The build master is typically run on a linux box. It seems happy
> there,
> > > > but should run on a Windows machine - I have never tried, but the
> docs
> > > says
> > > > it works.
> > > > The build slaves can run on other machines and OSs (including
> Windows)
> > as
> > > > required to run tests.
> > > > If you are building iOS, that slave must be a Mac. If you are
> building
> > > > Windows, it probably needs to be a Windows slave.
> > > >
> > > > Buildbot is written (and configured) in Python.
> > > >
> > > > The test results are written to a couchDB on every run. You can
> inspect
> > > > the DB and find out exactly which component versions were used and
> the
> > > > detailed test results.
> > > >
> > > > Plans (mine at least):
> > > >
> > > > Get the  test output viewable by the community. We are very close to
> > > > having our test master available on a public IP so anyone can see the
> > > > current state. It is my hope that as more people run CI systems, we
> can
> > > > aggregate the views on ci.cordova.io so all platforms are easily
> > viewed.
> > > > This should include a tidy dashboard to look at the couchDB aggregate
> > > data.
> > > >
> > > > Make the test more plugin-based. The previous medic system did
> > sed-style
> > > > editing of files to insert some of the automated test elements.
> > > > I recent made a change to mobilespec to support a medic plugin to
> make
> > > the
> > > > insertion of testing a bit smoother. That is not being used yet in
> the
> > > test
> > > > system because it does not exist in release 3.1. A rough plugin
> exists
> > in
> > > > the repo.
> > > >
> > > > Move the medic deploy bits to simpler scripts that are just command
> > line
> > > > methods to run the package in debug/attached mode.
> > > >
> > > > Hope that helps.
> > > > There are several other people interested in or using this or similar
> > > > systems. Please jump in...
> > > >
> > > > David Kemp
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 3:08 AM, Sergey Grebnov (Akvelon) <
> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi guys,
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to contribute to Medic project by adding Windows
> > > > > platforms support (Windows 8, Windows Phone 8).  After reviewing
> > > > > related discussion threads and project status I have the following
> > > > > questions. Could someone clarify them?
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. The main repo[1] seems to be not active at all (last commit was
> 6
> > > > > months ago).  I also see special ticket with done status to create
> > > > > official repo, but new repo is not active too.
> > > > > 2. Don't see any issue/task for Medic component in Jira.
> > > > > 3. Medic future is unclear. Fil Maj (Medic lead) has recently moved
> > to
> > > > > saucelabs . Who drives this direction right now? Will we  continue
> > > > > contributing to Medic project or there will be a different project
> > > > > used for test authomation (Appium)?
> > > > > 4. Are there plans or (anyone is already looking)  on adding WP8,
> W8
> > > > > support? Are there any known technical restrictions or issues here?
> > > > > The only big difference I see is that it should run on Windows
> > instead
> > > > > of Mac OS.
> > > > > 5. Currently Medic uses own logic to install builds on devices
> > > > > (cordova cli already provides this functionality). Are there plans
> to
> > > > > change this (running Medic on top of cordova cli)?
> > > > > 6. To get test results Medic previously used special logs/trace
> > > > > parsing so that final results were pushed to db from PC, NOT
> directly
> > > > > from mobile test app installed on a device. Do you plan to change
> > this
> > > > behavior?
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://github.com/filmaj/medic/commits/master
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > Sergey Grebnov
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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