probably a good idea for the moment / at some we will have a config file
reckoning!


On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Andrew Grieve <agri...@chromium.org> wrote:

> Okay, yeah, reading that back to myself and it seems like a bad idea
> (config.xml->app.xml). Probably would just add to confusion.
>
> So, top-level config.xml and top-level cordova.json.
>
> Maybe I could add to this that we don't create a cordova.json by default,
> since 99% most people shouldn't need it.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>
> > actually, let me put this another way: I support .cordova/config.json ->
> > cordova.json but I am not really interested in changing the name of
> > ./www/config.xml to ./www/app.xml
> >
> > ...feels to me we could consolidate this entire sitation with a single
> well
> > crafted configuration file (at the top level). ideally we have more
> > convention than configuration. feels like we have too many footguns to
> ease
> > our personal dev workflows as is than consideration for people actually
> > building apps.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry, I completely do not understand this at all. The proposal is to
> > > change the name of config.xml to ease confusions and add a new top
> level
> > > config file?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Andrew Grieve <agri...@chromium.org
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Just spoke with Ian and I now understand his point about cordova.json
> > >> being
> > >> for build environment, whereas config.xml is for application things.
> > >>
> > >> So, do think it'd be bad to have a cordova.json and a config.xml right
> > >> next
> > >> to each other.
> > >>
> > >> How about:
> > >>
> > >> config.xml -> app.xml
> > >>  - This will (hopefully) ease confusion about CLI's config.xml vs.
> > >> platforms/ config.xml files.
> > >>  - E.g. we're adding icon & splashscreen support to CLI's config.xml,
> > but
> > >> not for non-CLI config.xml files
> > >>  - E.g. app.xml and plugin.xml is where you make edits, config.xml is
> > >> what's read at runtime.
> > >>
> > >> .cordova/config.json -> cordova.json
> > >>
> > >> Also - JIRA for this is https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-4910
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I understood and read it too Gorkem.
> > >> >
> > >> > I was (poorly) suggesting we look at the issue of configuration in a
> > >> > complete view. Due to backwards compatibility we will be adding a
> new
> > >> file
> > >> > and the code to support the old file will be around a while.
> > >> >
> > >> > We can probably roll a whole lot more into a single file. What I"m
> not
> > >> sure
> > >> > about is what should and should not be.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Gorkem Ercan <
> gorkem.er...@gmail.com
> > >> > >wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Reducing the number of configuration files is actually the goal
> > here.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > The abstraction is not a new one. It already exists and it is part
> > of
> > >> the
> > >> > > $PROJECT/.cordova/config.json.
> > >> > > I am suggesting to move it to $HOME/.cordova/config.json so that
> we
> > no
> > >> > > longer need the
> > >> > > $PROJECT/.cordova/config.json and have only the cordova.xml to
> carry
> > >> > > project specific
> > >> > > properties.
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > Gorkem
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 12:16:57PM -0800, Brian LeRoux wrote:
> > >> > > > Considering http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/ConfigurationFilesI'm
> > >> not
> > >> > > sure
> > >> > > > we want more config either.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Perhaps we need to think more comprehensively rather than
> > proposing
> > >> > more
> > >> > > > abstractions.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Gorkem Ercan <
> > >> gorkem.er...@gmail.com
> > >> > > >wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > I think what I will describe here is more that what CLI
> provides
> > >> > today.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > An engine/lib has a version, id and a uri. On most cases, you
> > only
> > >> > care
> > >> > > > > about the
> > >> > > > > id and uri and assume that the tools that you work with
> already
> > >> knows
> > >> > > how
> > >> > > > > to
> > >> > > > > resolve the id and version to a location. In the case of CLI
> an
> > >> > engine
> > >> > > > > with id: cordova
> > >> > > > > and version:3.1.0 should be resolved to
> > >> > > ~/.cordova/lib/ios/cordova/3.1.0 .
> > >> > > > > If we have a
> > >> > > > > uri defined that actually means we want to overwrite the
> default
> > >> > > location
> > >> > > > > for the engine.
> > >> > > > > I think this redirection should be per engine not per project
> > and
> > >> > > should
> > >> > > > > be located as part of
> > >> > > > > CLI's configuration
> > >> > > > > --
> > >> > > > > Gorkem
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 01:28:12PM -0500, Andrew Grieve wrote:
> > >> > > > > > Hmm, good point about absolute paths.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I think if you're using an override there though, that you
> > could
> > >> > set
> > >> > > it
> > >> > > > > to
> > >> > > > > > a relative path for shared projects. Same thing with plugin
> > >> search
> > >> > > paths.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I think it'll be confusing to have a "cordova.xml" as well
> as
> > a
> > >> > > > > > "cordova.json" file right in the root.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > WDYT? Other options?
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Ian Clelland <
> > >> > iclell...@chromium.org
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Andrew Grieve <
> > >> > > agri...@chromium.org>
> > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > What cordova.json has that config.xml doesn't, is that
> you
> > >> can
> > >> > > set
> > >> > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > > location of platforms with it through:
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > That said, I like your idea of having one top-level
> config
> > >> file
> > >> > > > > instead
> > >> > > > > > > of
> > >> > > > > > > > two. I don't see why we couldn't just put these same
> > >> settings
> > >> > > into a
> > >> > > > > > > > "cordova.xml".
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Wouldn't this make it impossible to share project
> > >> configuration
> > >> > > between
> > >> > > > > > > developers? If your /Users/agrieve/.../ paths are in your
> > >> config
> > >> > > xml,
> > >> > > > > > > you're going to have a bad time putting that in version
> > >> control.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > -1 on having a single file to manage both application
> config
> > >> and
> > >> > > > > > > build-environment config.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > +1 to the way I read Gorkem's original suggestion, which
> was
> > >> to
> > >> > > > > coordinate
> > >> > > > > > > the move of the two files into a single issue and take
> care
> > >> of it
> > >> > > all
> > >> > > > > at
> > >> > > > > > > once.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Gorkem Ercan <
> > >> > > gorkem.er...@gmail.com
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > There is also another proposal to move config.xml out
> of
> > >> www.
> > >> > > Can
> > >> > > > > we
> > >> > > > > > > > merge
> > >> > > > > > > > > this two moves and
> > >> > > > > > > > > 1. remove .cordova
> > >> > > > > > > > > 2. remove config.json
> > >> > > > > > > > > 3. move config.xml to root
> > >> > > > > > > > > 4. rename config.xml to cordova.xml
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > AFAIK config,json does not carry any information that
> is
> > >> not
> > >> > > > > already
> > >> > > > > > > > > available on the config.xml. Since .cordova is
> > basically a
> > >> > > marker
> > >> > > > > for
> > >> > > > > > > CLI
> > >> > > > > > > > > for the root of an app I think renaming config.xml
> > should
> > >> > > provide
> > >> > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > > same
> > >> > > > > > > > > functionality.
> > >> > > > > > > > > --
> > >> > > > > > > > > Gorkem
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