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On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Michal Mocny <mmo...@chromium.org> wrote: > I think this particular users' frustration is not addressable (and his > feedback in places is just annoying: "you work for X and I demand that you > should have the money to do everything for me"). > He hasn't maintained his project for 2 years, hasn't read our docs, hasn't > written tests to guard against platform assumptions, and expects to update > everything in a few hours. > There are a few issues he got hit with (plugin authoring with the CLI is a > pain in the butt, 3.4 release plugin docs issue), but generally its > probably not worth putting to much weight into it. > > More broadly, though, perhaps we should acknowledge that we will never > catch all issues with releases and try to find ways to incentivize the > community to help test out RC's for us? Perhaps a dedicated mailing list > for known developers who stay bleeding edge that we email as part of > starting the release vote process / at the end of [DISCUSS] thread? > > -Michal > > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> We come with a (framework) developer's perspective, thus an echo chamber. >> The comments may or may not be fair but the users do encounter pain, and I >> think it does help in identifying issues we missed (reading from the list >> overall). Canary in the coal mine, etc. >> >> Filing issues etc ideal, but some, for whatever reason, do not like that >> type of forum, but still choose the Google Groups. >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: >> >> > I feel the comments there are not really constructive or fair. Cordova >> > changes too much? Sorry, static code means bitrot aka abandonware. >> > >> > We work on Cordova because we are improving it for the many thousands of >> > our users whom appreciate that. I don't need to tell you guys that but >> 1.8 >> > was a mess compared to 3.x and if you are only updating YOUR userland >> > source once every 2 years and you don't expect it to be come with >> > problems?! The bugs found usually are not introduced by us but with >> Xcode, >> > iOS, or Android and we are FIXING those things with updates. >> > >> > Docs are a problem but as they say patches welcome. This is the sort of >> > entitled complaint that lead me off that list. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > See: >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/phonegap/II0qo-dSFWs/Fj8jkemGSbUJ >> > > >> > >> > >
