Brian, Joe and Ian, Thanks for your detailed explanations. It makes lots of senses. Let's make it happen.
Thanks, -ningxin > -----Original Message----- > From: brian.ler...@gmail.com [mailto:brian.ler...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of > Brian LeRoux > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 4:47 AM > To: dev@cordova.apache.org > Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines > > Think those builds should be hosted by those downstreams anyhow. Cordova is > sort of the low level, on the metal, default webview and building these > things is > a very deliberate choice by the end developer using the platform. > Moz should host Gecko builds. Chromium should host custom ChromeViews > (someday, I dream) and, Crosswalk should host their thing. Etc. Maybe someday > we can get an IE binary from Microsoft. Dare to dream. > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Ian Clelland <iclell...@chromium.org>wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Joe Bowser <bows...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > So, when Apache publishes something, it has fill the following criteria: > > > > > > - All source code must have their licence headers intact > > > - All third-party source code must be mentioned in the NOTICE file > > > - No Binary Blobs - No compiled libraries, which include JARs and > > > shared object files (including the pak). > > > > > > Now, with Crosswalk, there's obviously the Chromium Library that we > > > need, so we need a way to get that into the generated project somehow. > > > The easiest way is with plugman, but the issue is that Apache can't > > > legally pass around binary blobs when it does an official release of > > > anything. Intel, OTOH, isn't restricted by cumbersome open source > > > foundation rules, and can do so. > > > > > > > Intel has their own rules to follow, certainly, but we're presuming > > here that Intel has already worked out the legal requirements to > > distribute Crosswalk in the first place, so the idea of Intel also > > distributing the "official" Crosswalk Cordova Engine plugin just seems > > to make a lot of sense. > > > > Apache distributes Cordova-Android, which defines the integration API, > > and includes the default AndroidWebView classes, and other parties > > should be free to distribute their own engine plugins, implementing > > that API. That distribution can then be in any form that makes sense > > (and complies with the licenses of the various components) > > > > Joe's right that it would be awkward, if not impossible, for Apache to > > distribute the Crosswalk core library. We'd have to include the 15GB > > of source as well, at the very least, and that doesn't sound like fun at > > all. > > It *is* all open-source, but there are a lot of different licenses in > > there, and we'd need some lawyerly help to make sure that the ASF > > could release software that included it all. > > > > Ian > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Hu, Ningxin <ningxin...@intel.com> > > wrote: > > > >> - who publishes the plugins, intel or cordova? > > > > > > > > For this open, could someone elaborate it a little bit more? What > > > > does > > > it mean? I remembered someone mentioned the license is open in the > > > hangouts, any details? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > -ningxin > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: mmo...@google.com [mailto:mmo...@google.com] On Behalf Of > > Michal > > > >> Mocny > > > >> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 12:53 AM > > > >> To: dev > > > >> Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines > > > >> > > > >> Notes: > > > >> > > > >> - native junit tests needs fixing (due to deprication) > > > >> > > > >> - common script for creating walk mobilespec > > > >> > > > >> - fix failing mobile spec tests (file-transfer?, media?) > > > >> > > > >> - who publishes the plugins, intel or cordova? > > > >> > > > >> - static vs dynamic xwalk lib > > > >> > > > >> - (option) one plugin, use hooks to download static library > > > >> > > > >> - (option) one plugin, just bundle static lib > > > >> > > > >> - (option) one plugin, download static lib on app run > > > >> > > > >> - (option) two plugins, xwalk lib bundled in a separate plugin, > > > >> and > > > can be added > > > >> as a <dep>? > > > >> > > > >> - intel vs arm binary apk targets for CLI. Two android > > > >> platforms, or > > > just two build > > > >> targets? > > > >> > > > >> - How long to get GeckoView: Joe not sure. days to weeks :( > > > >> > > > >> - Not blocking, though > > > >> > > > >> - plugman works to install but CLI does not, lets figure that out > > > >> > > > >> - Other platforms: Windows Phone support!? BB10?! > > > >> > > > >> - Can we share code between xwalk WebViewClient and gecko view > > > >> WebViewClient etc? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Josh Soref > > > >> <jso...@blackberry.com> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > Ian Clelland wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > https://staging.talkgadget.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpi3uaclcuedn7imn > > > 6b > > > >> > 9jdq > > > >> > >c > > > >> > > > > >> > https://talkgadget.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpi3uaclcuedn7imn6b9 > > > >> > jdqc > > > >> > > > > >> > Might work. Staging is probably internal. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >
