Well said.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian 
LeRoux
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 4:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: First stab at Next Steps article

I get the sense I'm walking into a trap but I feel like its important to keep 
the story straight here. Cordova facilitates building apps with web 
technologies. Our original motivation was to give web technology a better than 
fighting chance to overcome fragmented proprietary treadmills.

Apps have an advantageous position because they get installed by a deliberate 
user action they enjoy a different security model than the open web. The web 
sandbox is a feature: it is not a bug but device apis and to a lesser extent 
app store distribution are compelling advantages.

The original intent of the thing now called Cordova was to level the playing 
field, offer a future forward polyfill for emergent standards, and to vet those 
standards in a faster-than-normal implementation. Ideally apps authored in 
Cordova run in a browser. (A browser of today or the future.) These goals for 
most of the committership have not changed. We're here to help prove out web 
standards, paint over proprietary runtimes, to help facilitate web technology 
to continue its advancement.

Web standards don't actually have much to do with browser development.
Implementations by vendors participate in the standards process but all these 
lines are rather blurry and sort of outside the point. The point is the web is 
crucial societal infrastructure. We need to keep the web open, free, and 
accessible to all.


On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Freak Show <[email protected]> wrote:

> You write software that bypasses web browser security models and 
> punches holes in the sandbox.  How does that "support the web"?
>
> That's a good useful thing considering how badly the web "standards"
> people have mismanaged browser development over the last ten years.
>
> On May 1, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Shazron <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Interesting that you are here to tell us what we are all about. We 
> > know what we are about, we've been doing it every day for years. 
> > What you are talking about is currently the means, not the goal.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Freak Show <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On May 1, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Brian LeRoux <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> WebSQL is deprecated by browsers. We're here to support the web 
> >>> not
> route
> >>> around it.
> >>>
> >>
> >> No you're not. You're here to bypass browser limitations to provide
> access
> >> to features the web doesn't think you need.  SQLite in the browser 
> >> is
> very
> >> useful.  In my case, essential.
> >>
>
>

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