The problem is that Kitkat is still 18.1% of the current devices out there, which includes all the failed experiment devices that Google had released. That would be dropping a lot of things by the wayside.
On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Simon MacDonald <simon.macdon...@gmail.com > wrote: > +1 from me as well. > > If we can move to Android 5.0 (API 21) and later that would be a huge win > as all of those devices can use the Android System WebView > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com. > google.android.webview&hl=en> > which > gives us a more consistent target. > > Simon Mac Donald > http://simonmacdonald.com > > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Kerri Shotts <kerrisho...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > +1 > > > > > > ~ Kerri > > > > > On Jun 12, 2017, at 13:22, Trevor Brindle <tabrin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > +1 makes sense to me. Ensuring testability and not making heroic > measures > > > to continue support an old OS is a good reason to me. > > > > > > TrevorBrindle > > > Lead Hybrid Mobile Engineer > > > SHOP•COM powered by marketamerica > > > C: (407) 450-8700 > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> +1 > > >> > > >> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 8:38 AM, julio cesar sanchez < > > >> jcesarmob...@gmail.com > > >>> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Currently, Jellybean is 8.8%, so it's bellow the 10%. We can drop it. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> 2017-06-12 17:22 GMT+02:00 Filip Maj <maj....@gmail.com>: > > >>> > > >>>> Reviving this thread! Sorry for the late reply. > > >>>> > > >>>> Regarding Trevor's question: > > >>>>> Just for consideration however, what do we actually gain by > dropping > > >>>>> official support? Are there compat libraries or tests we can drop > > >> after > > >>>>> this? > > >>>> > > >>>> From a testing/CI perspective, it becomes much more tenable to keep > up > > >>>> with pull requests and ensure changes are validated on the platforms > > >>>> we support. We currently leverage Sauce Labs to run tests on > emulators > > >>>> on Android, and Sauce dropped support for all Android versions up to > > >>>> and including 4.3 [1]. So, from a selfish perspective, as a cordova > > >>>> dev, dropping 4.3 and below support makes _my_ life easier as I > don't > > >>>> have to manually test on earlier versions of Android. > > >>>> > > >>>> Not sure if there are other, less-selfish reasons? Ping Simon + Joe. > > >>>> > > >>>> Also, instead of letting this thread die a quiet death, may I > suggest > > >>>> that whatever decision is made here, we file as issues and chalk up > > >>>> for the next cordova-android major release? > > >>>> > > >>>> [1] https://wiki.saucelabs.com/display/DOCS/2017/03/30/EOL+ > > >>>> for+Android+4.0%2C+4.1%2C+4.2%2C+and+4.3+Automated+Mobile+ > App+Testing > > >>>> > > >>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Trevor Brindle < > tabrin...@gmail.com> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>> I don't think it is unreasonable to drop support for an OS that had > > >> its > > >>>>> first release in July of 2012 (4.1 is almost 5 years old), > especially > > >>>>> considering the Cordova support policy for iOS. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Realistically, I think it's hard to justify support for before 4.4. > > >>> Less > > >>>>> than 10% of our customers are on 4.4 or earlier as a whole, and > less > > >>> than > > >>>>> 10% of them actually use our apps regularly. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Just for consideration however, what do we actually gain by > dropping > > >>>>> official support? Are there compat libraries or tests we can drop > > >> after > > >>>>> this? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:10 PM Simon MacDonald < > > >>>> simon.macdon...@gmail.com> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I would happily drop support for anything less than API level 19 in > > >> the > > >>>>> next cordova-android major release. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Simon Mac Donald > > >>>>> http://simonmacdonald.com > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Filip Maj <maj....@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> As much as I personally would like to do so, I wonder what the > > >>>>>> reaction among consumers of cordova would be. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 1:39 AM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> > > >>> wrote: > > >>>>>>> +1 > > >>>>>>> Our CI tests only test as far back as 4.4, so maybe I thought we > > >>> were > > >>>>>>> already there. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> @purplecabbage > > >>>>>>> risingj.com > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Joe Bowser <bows...@gmail.com> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Hey > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Even though everything appears to be working on Jellybean, I > > >> know a > > >>>> lot > > >>>>>> of > > >>>>>>>> people have been wanting to throw it to the wayside. Normally, > > >> for > > >>>> us > > >>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>> drop support for a platform, we have to wait unitl it goes below > > >>> 10%, > > >>>>>> but > > >>>>>>>> since Jellybean consists of three different API versions, and > > >> since > > >>>> two > > >>>>>> of > > >>>>>>>> those are below the 5% mark, I'm tempted to just toss it by the > > >>>> wayside > > >>>>>> and > > >>>>>>>> set the minimum supported version of Android to 4.4.x, or API > > >> level > > >>>> 19. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> How do people feel about that. I know in the past, people were > > >>> super > > >>>>>>>> passionate about supporting everything, but given that my > Android > > >>> 4.1 > > >>>>>>>> device is an old Nitobi device obtained before we even became > > >>> Adobe, > > >>>>>> and it > > >>>>>>>> took five tries to get it to cooperate with adb, I'm really > > >>> starting > > >>>> to > > >>>>>>>> think it's time we dropped Jellybean. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Thoughts? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Joe > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > > >> --------- > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> -- > > >>>>> TrevorBrindle > > >>>>> Lead Hybrid Mobile Engineer > > >>>>> SHOP•COM powered by marketamerica > > >>>>> C: (407) 450-8700 > > >>>> > > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > --------- > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > >
