+1 makes sense to me. Ensuring testability and not making heroic measures to continue support an old OS is a good reason to me.
TrevorBrindle Lead Hybrid Mobile Engineer SHOP•COM powered by marketamerica C: (407) 450-8700 On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Shazron <[email protected]> wrote: > +1 > > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 8:38 AM, julio cesar sanchez < > [email protected] > > wrote: > > > Currently, Jellybean is 8.8%, so it's bellow the 10%. We can drop it. > > > > > > 2017-06-12 17:22 GMT+02:00 Filip Maj <[email protected]>: > > > > > Reviving this thread! Sorry for the late reply. > > > > > > Regarding Trevor's question: > > > > Just for consideration however, what do we actually gain by dropping > > > > official support? Are there compat libraries or tests we can drop > after > > > > this? > > > > > > From a testing/CI perspective, it becomes much more tenable to keep up > > > with pull requests and ensure changes are validated on the platforms > > > we support. We currently leverage Sauce Labs to run tests on emulators > > > on Android, and Sauce dropped support for all Android versions up to > > > and including 4.3 [1]. So, from a selfish perspective, as a cordova > > > dev, dropping 4.3 and below support makes _my_ life easier as I don't > > > have to manually test on earlier versions of Android. > > > > > > Not sure if there are other, less-selfish reasons? Ping Simon + Joe. > > > > > > Also, instead of letting this thread die a quiet death, may I suggest > > > that whatever decision is made here, we file as issues and chalk up > > > for the next cordova-android major release? > > > > > > [1] https://wiki.saucelabs.com/display/DOCS/2017/03/30/EOL+ > > > for+Android+4.0%2C+4.1%2C+4.2%2C+and+4.3+Automated+Mobile+App+Testing > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Trevor Brindle <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > I don't think it is unreasonable to drop support for an OS that had > its > > > > first release in July of 2012 (4.1 is almost 5 years old), especially > > > > considering the Cordova support policy for iOS. > > > > > > > > Realistically, I think it's hard to justify support for before 4.4. > > Less > > > > than 10% of our customers are on 4.4 or earlier as a whole, and less > > than > > > > 10% of them actually use our apps regularly. > > > > > > > > Just for consideration however, what do we actually gain by dropping > > > > official support? Are there compat libraries or tests we can drop > after > > > > this? > > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:10 PM Simon MacDonald < > > > [email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I would happily drop support for anything less than API level 19 in > the > > > > next cordova-android major release. > > > > > > > > > > > > Simon Mac Donald > > > > http://simonmacdonald.com > > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Filip Maj <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > >> As much as I personally would like to do so, I wonder what the > > > >> reaction among consumers of cordova would be. > > > >> > > > >> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 1:39 AM, Jesse <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> > +1 > > > >> > Our CI tests only test as far back as 4.4, so maybe I thought we > > were > > > >> > already there. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > @purplecabbage > > > >> > risingj.com > > > >> > > > > >> > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Joe Bowser <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> >> Hey > > > >> >> > > > >> >> Even though everything appears to be working on Jellybean, I > know a > > > lot > > > >> of > > > >> >> people have been wanting to throw it to the wayside. Normally, > for > > > us > > > >> to > > > >> >> drop support for a platform, we have to wait unitl it goes below > > 10%, > > > >> but > > > >> >> since Jellybean consists of three different API versions, and > since > > > two > > > >> of > > > >> >> those are below the 5% mark, I'm tempted to just toss it by the > > > wayside > > > >> and > > > >> >> set the minimum supported version of Android to 4.4.x, or API > level > > > 19. > > > >> >> > > > >> >> How do people feel about that. I know in the past, people were > > super > > > >> >> passionate about supporting everything, but given that my Android > > 4.1 > > > >> >> device is an old Nitobi device obtained before we even became > > Adobe, > > > >> and it > > > >> >> took five tries to get it to cooperate with adb, I'm really > > starting > > > to > > > >> >> think it's time we dropped Jellybean. > > > >> >> > > > >> >> Thoughts? > > > >> >> > > > >> >> Joe > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------ > --------- > > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > > > TrevorBrindle > > > > Lead Hybrid Mobile Engineer > > > > SHOP•COM powered by marketamerica > > > > C: (407) 450-8700 > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > >
