+1 from me as well. If we can move to Android 5.0 (API 21) and later that would be a huge win as all of those devices can use the Android System WebView <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.webview&hl=en> which gives us a more consistent target.
Simon Mac Donald http://simonmacdonald.com On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Kerri Shotts <kerrisho...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 > > > ~ Kerri > > > On Jun 12, 2017, at 13:22, Trevor Brindle <tabrin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > +1 makes sense to me. Ensuring testability and not making heroic measures > > to continue support an old OS is a good reason to me. > > > > TrevorBrindle > > Lead Hybrid Mobile Engineer > > SHOP•COM powered by marketamerica > > C: (407) 450-8700 > > > > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> +1 > >> > >> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 8:38 AM, julio cesar sanchez < > >> jcesarmob...@gmail.com > >>> wrote: > >> > >>> Currently, Jellybean is 8.8%, so it's bellow the 10%. We can drop it. > >>> > >>> > >>> 2017-06-12 17:22 GMT+02:00 Filip Maj <maj....@gmail.com>: > >>> > >>>> Reviving this thread! Sorry for the late reply. > >>>> > >>>> Regarding Trevor's question: > >>>>> Just for consideration however, what do we actually gain by dropping > >>>>> official support? Are there compat libraries or tests we can drop > >> after > >>>>> this? > >>>> > >>>> From a testing/CI perspective, it becomes much more tenable to keep up > >>>> with pull requests and ensure changes are validated on the platforms > >>>> we support. We currently leverage Sauce Labs to run tests on emulators > >>>> on Android, and Sauce dropped support for all Android versions up to > >>>> and including 4.3 [1]. So, from a selfish perspective, as a cordova > >>>> dev, dropping 4.3 and below support makes _my_ life easier as I don't > >>>> have to manually test on earlier versions of Android. > >>>> > >>>> Not sure if there are other, less-selfish reasons? Ping Simon + Joe. > >>>> > >>>> Also, instead of letting this thread die a quiet death, may I suggest > >>>> that whatever decision is made here, we file as issues and chalk up > >>>> for the next cordova-android major release? > >>>> > >>>> [1] https://wiki.saucelabs.com/display/DOCS/2017/03/30/EOL+ > >>>> for+Android+4.0%2C+4.1%2C+4.2%2C+and+4.3+Automated+Mobile+App+Testing > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Trevor Brindle <tabrin...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> I don't think it is unreasonable to drop support for an OS that had > >> its > >>>>> first release in July of 2012 (4.1 is almost 5 years old), especially > >>>>> considering the Cordova support policy for iOS. > >>>>> > >>>>> Realistically, I think it's hard to justify support for before 4.4. > >>> Less > >>>>> than 10% of our customers are on 4.4 or earlier as a whole, and less > >>> than > >>>>> 10% of them actually use our apps regularly. > >>>>> > >>>>> Just for consideration however, what do we actually gain by dropping > >>>>> official support? Are there compat libraries or tests we can drop > >> after > >>>>> this? > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:10 PM Simon MacDonald < > >>>> simon.macdon...@gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I would happily drop support for anything less than API level 19 in > >> the > >>>>> next cordova-android major release. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Simon Mac Donald > >>>>> http://simonmacdonald.com > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Filip Maj <maj....@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> As much as I personally would like to do so, I wonder what the > >>>>>> reaction among consumers of cordova would be. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 1:39 AM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>>>>> +1 > >>>>>>> Our CI tests only test as far back as 4.4, so maybe I thought we > >>> were > >>>>>>> already there. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> @purplecabbage > >>>>>>> risingj.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Joe Bowser <bows...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hey > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Even though everything appears to be working on Jellybean, I > >> know a > >>>> lot > >>>>>> of > >>>>>>>> people have been wanting to throw it to the wayside. Normally, > >> for > >>>> us > >>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> drop support for a platform, we have to wait unitl it goes below > >>> 10%, > >>>>>> but > >>>>>>>> since Jellybean consists of three different API versions, and > >> since > >>>> two > >>>>>> of > >>>>>>>> those are below the 5% mark, I'm tempted to just toss it by the > >>>> wayside > >>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> set the minimum supported version of Android to 4.4.x, or API > >> level > >>>> 19. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> How do people feel about that. I know in the past, people were > >>> super > >>>>>>>> passionate about supporting everything, but given that my Android > >>> 4.1 > >>>>>>>> device is an old Nitobi device obtained before we even became > >>> Adobe, > >>>>>> and it > >>>>>>>> took five tries to get it to cooperate with adb, I'm really > >>> starting > >>>> to > >>>>>>>> think it's time we dropped Jellybean. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thoughts? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Joe > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> --------- > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> TrevorBrindle > >>>>> Lead Hybrid Mobile Engineer > >>>>> SHOP•COM powered by marketamerica > >>>>> C: (407) 450-8700 > >>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >
