Summary of IRC Meeting in #couchdb-meeting at Wed Nov 4 19:02:24 2015: Attendees: michellep, jennmoneydollars, Kxepal, sebastianro, tonysun83, michelle_, rnewson
- Preface - CouchDB 2.0 status - Info: CouchDB testing party (fixing javascript test suite) every day since 8 p.m. CET and till the green build. Everyone welcome! (: - Open floor - Fauxton - Open floor IRC log follows: ## Preface ## [Wed Nov 4 19:03:06 2015] <Kxepal>: I think we'll start with our most important topic - CouchDB 2.0. Feel free to announce yours too (: ## CouchDB 2.0 status ## [Wed Nov 4 19:04:31 2015] <Kxepal>: ok, so there is the status: we'd fixed all erlang tests and now only javascript ones holds us from the beta. [Wed Nov 4 19:05:30 2015] <michellep>: how what happens once in beta [Wed Nov 4 19:05:57 2015] <Kxepal>: there is a branch where jan____ and sebastianro working on them: https://github.com/apache/couchdb/pull/354 but they are going somehow slow. we need to help them! [Wed Nov 4 19:06:52 2015] <sebastianro>: true, maybe prioritizing into must and should can help; I'd stick what I'd see most important list_view on [Wed Nov 4 19:06:54 2015] <Kxepal>: michellep: once it's beta we need to start polish things to make the release: announce wide user testing, fix last bugs and compatibility issues, fix documentation, fix release generation etc. [Wed Nov 4 19:07:12 2015] <sebastianro>: so beta is a milestone? [Wed Nov 4 19:07:40 2015] <Kxepal>: e.g. beta means no more features, only important bug fixes and clear strait way to release. [Wed Nov 4 19:07:50 2015] <Kxepal>: sebastianro: yes, closest one. [Wed Nov 4 19:08:03 2015] <michellep>: maybe we can have a testing party [Wed Nov 4 19:08:39 2015] <sebastianro>: like online and everyone grabs one? [Wed Nov 4 19:08:47 2015] <Kxepal>: that's will be awesome. I, mar-ia and vatamane had such over the week for erlang tests and this was very productive. [Wed Nov 4 19:09:05 2015] <michellep>: :D yea [Wed Nov 4 19:09:27 2015] <michellep>: also it will help people that want to help, but don't know how to start [Wed Nov 4 19:09:32 2015] <Kxepal>: sebastianro: yes, online test-fix-coding party. not for the whole day, but few hours per day over the week is enough to handle most of our issues. [Wed Nov 4 19:10:15 2015] <sebastianro>: when it's later in the evening (CET) I'm in [Wed Nov 4 19:10:26 2015] <Kxepal>: true. because js test suite is not a trivial thing /: [Wed Nov 4 19:11:19 2015] <Kxepal>: sebastianro: me too. let's try then. I'll help with erlang side. [Wed Nov 4 19:11:38 2015] <Kxepal>: because it's what we need to fix as well to make js works. [Wed Nov 4 19:12:07 2015] <sebastianro>: true - and be it postponing to 2.1 - but s/o like you can judge it [Wed Nov 4 19:12:12 2015] <Kxepal>: btw you probably would have to revert etag tests because our last fix revived old fixed blocker back to live /: [Wed Nov 4 19:13:04 2015] <sebastianro>: will check [Wed Nov 4 19:13:53 2015] <Kxepal>: sebastianro: if we could fix known bugs for 2.0 - better do that. postponning is for the last resort solution. [Wed Nov 4 19:14:19 2015] <sebastianro>: sure [Wed Nov 4 19:14:58 2015] <Kxepal>: so what the time is good for you for the party? [Wed Nov 4 19:16:06 2015] <sebastianro>: me: 8pm CET (like the meeting 2day). michellep (& others): what about you? [Wed Nov 4 19:16:30 2015] <michellep>: this is an okay time for me [Wed Nov 4 19:16:43 2015] <Kxepal>: I'm fine with this as well [Wed Nov 4 19:17:03 2015] <tonysun83>: this time is fine for me as well, will this be a daily thing? [Wed Nov 4 19:17:14 2015] <tonysun83>: ahh per day i see [Wed Nov 4 19:17:17 2015] <jennmoneydollars>: hiii [Wed Nov 4 19:17:24 2015] <jennmoneydollars>: ~*long time no irc*~ [Wed Nov 4 19:17:33 2015] <michellep>: hi jennmoneydollars [Wed Nov 4 19:17:34 2015] <Kxepal>: tonysun83: I don't think that one day will be enough to us /: [Wed Nov 4 19:17:45 2015] <Kxepal>: jennmoneydollars: hi! welcome back! (: [Wed Nov 4 19:18:09 2015] <michellep>: yes lets have multiple days, so if people miss one day they can join the other days [Wed Nov 4 19:18:44 2015] <Kxepal>: #info CouchDB testing party (fixing javascript test suite) every day since 8 p.m. CET and till the green build. Everyone welcome! (: [Wed Nov 4 19:19:33 2015] <sebastianro>: we'd use #couchdb-dev? [Wed Nov 4 19:20:05 2015] <Kxepal>: yes, it's fine and will nudge other devs to join us or help (: [Wed Nov 4 19:20:50 2015] <rnewson>: oh hai [Wed Nov 4 19:21:02 2015] <Kxepal>: rnewson: hi! [Wed Nov 4 19:21:10 2015] <michellep>: hi rnewson [Wed Nov 4 19:21:55 2015] <rnewson>: what's the current state of js test suite? It's been a couple of weeks since we started the push to really fix it up? [Wed Nov 4 19:22:25 2015] <sebastianro>: I'd say less than halfway through [Wed Nov 4 19:23:03 2015] <michellep>: i think just jan____ and sebastianro have been working on it, so we are going to have a testing party so other people can help out and get help to help [Wed Nov 4 19:23:24 2015] <rnewson>: ok, that would be great. [Wed Nov 4 19:23:29 2015] <rnewson>: It's the last thing before beta [Wed Nov 4 19:23:36 2015] <sebastianro>: ;-) [Wed Nov 4 19:23:40 2015] <rnewson>: the only other thing I think we need is a list of breaking changes [Wed Nov 4 19:24:20 2015] <sebastianro>: can't one be compiled from the other (at least in parts) - I mean diff tests and check what's different / no more in scope [Wed Nov 4 19:24:48 2015] <Kxepal>: rnewson: once we fix the tests I'll make this. because now it's not clear what we leave broken and what we'll fix. same etag for views for instance. [Wed Nov 4 19:26:04 2015] <Kxepal>: sebastianro: that will help, but I think we'll also would need to ping pouchdb team as they have more wider api coverage with tests than we. [Wed Nov 4 19:26:19 2015] <michellep>: i think everyday is too much to have the party maybe tuesday-wed-thursday [Wed Nov 4 19:27:11 2015] <sebastianro>: sounds good to me - one can work offline b4/after [Wed Nov 4 19:27:28 2015] <michellep>: :) [Wed Nov 4 19:28:16 2015] <Kxepal>: fine (: [Wed Nov 4 19:30:26 2015] <rnewson>: there's a PR to fix view etags (by removing them) [Wed Nov 4 19:31:21 2015] <Kxepal>: rnewson: it eventually set them as undefined [Wed Nov 4 19:31:27 2015] <Kxepal>: iilyak fixed that long time ago [Wed Nov 4 19:33:08 2015] <rnewson>: no... this PR was recent, last few days [Wed Nov 4 19:33:14 2015] <rnewson>: we currently send random uuid [Wed Nov 4 19:33:35 2015] <Kxepal>: yes, I'm about what it does if you apply it. [Wed Nov 4 19:34:34 2015] <sebastianro>: but wasn't the solution removing them altogether? [Wed Nov 4 19:35:12 2015] <rnewson>: yes [Wed Nov 4 19:35:15 2015] <Kxepal>: I would say it's workaround...but so far yes. [Wed Nov 4 19:35:19 2015] <rnewson>: for small values of solution [Wed Nov 4 19:38:47 2015] <Kxepal>: ok, I think we know what to do with 2.0 for the beta (: moving on? ## Open floor ## [Wed Nov 4 19:40:46 2015] <Kxepal>: well, I don't have any else topics for today /: may be anyone else has something? [Wed Nov 4 19:40:54 2015] <michelle_>: i have fauxton news [Wed Nov 4 19:41:01 2015] <sebastianro>: can't wait ## Fauxton ## [Wed Nov 4 19:41:08 2015] <michelle_>: :D [Wed Nov 4 19:41:16 2015] <Kxepal>: michelle_: the floor is yours (: [Wed Nov 4 19:41:43 2015] <michelle_>: alright, Ben Keen and Eytan worked on a notification center [Wed Nov 4 19:41:49 2015] <michelle_>: let me find a picture [Wed Nov 4 19:43:47 2015] <Kxepal>: COUCHDB-2770 [Wed Nov 4 19:45:32 2015] <Kxepal>: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12751333/Notifications%20%28Cloudant%29%20V2%20%28Panel%29.png [Wed Nov 4 19:46:17 2015] <michelle_>: are the box links working? [Wed Nov 4 19:46:28 2015] <Kxepal>: michelle_: I don't have flash to check [Wed Nov 4 19:46:58 2015] <Kxepal>: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-2782 [Wed Nov 4 19:47:06 2015] <Kxepal>: but video is attached there ^^ [Wed Nov 4 19:47:25 2015] <michelle_>: https://gist.github.com/michellephung/480ad0c2fb0dd14c0783 [Wed Nov 4 19:47:33 2015] <michelle_>: ^^ i just took that picture [Wed Nov 4 19:48:09 2015] <michelle_>: robertkowalski: added a table view to the document cards view port [Wed Nov 4 19:48:46 2015] <sebastianro>: this one is great!! - and I guess one can bring in a lot more (in 2.1 ;-) ) [Wed Nov 4 19:49:02 2015] <michelle_>: :D [Wed Nov 4 19:49:42 2015] <michelle_>: i am going to do a new npm release every 1st of the month, so npm should be fresh each month [Wed Nov 4 19:50:03 2015] <michelle_>: but people are still free to do a new version whenever they want throughout the month [Wed Nov 4 19:50:41 2015] <michelle_>: that's all for fauxton news [Wed Nov 4 19:50:57 2015] <Kxepal>: michelle_: don't forget to update rebar commit fix when you roll new release. because now fauxton is very outdated on master. [Wed Nov 4 19:51:33 2015] <Kxepal>: and I'm not sure if it safe to pin the recent commit there... [Wed Nov 4 19:51:33 2015] <michelle_>: ok i will learn how to do that [Wed Nov 4 19:51:47 2015] <michelle_>: once a month? [Wed Nov 4 19:52:20 2015] <Kxepal>: michelle_: if it's fine for you - good. at least you'll be sure that master is in sync with one of your releases. [Wed Nov 4 19:52:28 2015] <Kxepal>: might be helpful at somepoint. [Wed Nov 4 19:52:51 2015] <michelle_>: ok [Wed Nov 4 19:53:46 2015] <michelle_>: i will learn how to do it before the dec 1, so i can do it when i update the npm version [Wed Nov 4 19:55:08 2015] <Kxepal>: michelle_: ok, ping me or rnewson for the help with. [Wed Nov 4 19:55:16 2015] <michelle_>: :D ## Open floor ## [Wed Nov 4 19:58:02 2015] <Kxepal>: I think we'd done for today...and our time is running out. [Wed Nov 4 19:58:13 2015] <michelle_>: i'd like to change the favicons everywhere so that they have a transparent background [Wed Nov 4 19:58:25 2015] <michelle_>: before the big release [Wed Nov 4 19:58:26 2015] <tonysun83>: need to drop off, I just got the js test suite running, will ask more questions tomorrow during the bug bash [Wed Nov 4 19:58:30 2015] <Kxepal>: michelle_: don't you fear IE? [Wed Nov 4 19:58:39 2015] <michelle_>: what do you mean [Wed Nov 4 19:58:56 2015] <Kxepal>: michelle_: iirc IE doesn't like transparent things... [Wed Nov 4 19:59:12 2015] <michelle_>: :/ [Wed Nov 4 19:59:13 2015] <Kxepal>: tonysun83: nice! see you tomorrow then! (: [Wed Nov 4 19:59:17 2015] <michelle_>: even in the favicon [Wed Nov 4 19:59:23 2015] <michelle_>: favicons! [Wed Nov 4 19:59:41 2015] <michelle_>: ok i will think about ie favicons [Wed Nov 4 19:59:42 2015] <Kxepal>: michelle_: favicons are hard btw: http://www.jonathantneal.com/blog/understand-the-favicon/ [Wed Nov 4 19:59:51 2015] <michelle_>: but i plan to bring this up again [Wed Nov 4 20:00:09 2015] <Kxepal>: +1 for this in anyway (: [Wed Nov 4 20:00:15 2015] <Kxepal>: ASFBot: meeting stop Meeting ended at Wed Nov 4 20:00:15 2015