> On Dec 9, 2019, at 4:56 AM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote: > >> On Dec 8, 2019, at 9:17 PM, Jim Ma <mail2ji...@gmail.com> wrote: >> If both JAXB and JAX-WS changes, should cxf community join the effort to >> contribute and drive the jax-ws spec thing ? > > Well, the issue is whom in the community CAN contribute and drive it. With > Jakarta moving to Eclipse, it has also become “pay to play” if the company > you work for happens to also be an Eclipse sponsor. As a concrete example, > I cannot participate in the Jakarta specs because my employer has decided > that the extra fee Eclipse wants to charge us to be part of the Jakarta specs > is not worth it for a variety of reasons. Thus, Colm and I are left out. > With the old JCP, individuals could participate with the Apache hat on, but > my inquiry about that option for the new Jakarta was met with a “not if their > employer is sponsoring Eclipse.” Might have just been a shake down for > more money or something, but it left such a sour taste in my mouth that I > didn’t pursue it harder.
On the Jakarta EE Working Group side we had a discussion on this and the TL;DR is it will be fixed and I should know more next week. Eclipse was working on the rules decisions of the Working Group, while we in the Working Group hadn't realized we inadvertently eliminated no-cost participation through a couple decisions made a few months apart. This will go away and you should work with the assumption you and everyone will be able to be committers on specs without employers having to pay. -David