Thank you Jia and Flavio. Comments inline. On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 1:54 AM, Jia Zhai <zhaiji...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Sijie, > Would you please help address some of Flavio's comments first, You may have > more information for story behind the result. I would like to handle this > after your comments. > > Thanks a lot. > -Jia > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jia Zhai <zhaiji...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks a lot for your comments, will address them and post a new draft. > > > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Flavio Junqueira < > > fpjunque...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: > > > >> Thanks, Jia. It would be good to have concrete metrics where possible. > >> See my comments below: > >> > >> > On 30 Oct 2016, at 10:53, Jia Zhai <zhaiji...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > Thanks a lot for your suggestions Flavio. > >> > And Guys, Here is a draft. Please help comments on it. > >> > Regards. > >> > -Jia > >> > > >> > ===================================== > >> > > >> > DistributedLog > >> > > >> > DistributedLog is a high-performance replicated log service. It offers > >> > > >> > durability, replication and strong consistency, which provides a > >> fundamental > >> > > >> > building block for building reliable distributed systems. > >> > > >> > DistributedLog has been incubating since 2016-06-24. > >> > > >> > Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation: > >> > 1. Continue to grow the community, especially people from > outside > >> > Twitter. > >> > [Ask the PMC for helping check the number of people subscribed to dev@ > >> mail > >> > list] > >> > >> I think you're referring to the project PMC checking the subscription > >> list. I checked and we have 35 people subscribed. A lot of people have > >> gmail and apache.org <http://apache.org/> addresses so it is hard to > >> tell affiliation. One typical sign of community diversity is to have > active > >> committers from multiple organizations, which is just a natural > extension > >> of a diverse community. As folks contribute to the project, I'd expect > the > >> PPMC to offer committership to the contributors. > >> > >> Please do not refer to Twitter specifically, just say that we want to > >> increase diversity. > Agreed. We should just say that we want to increase diversity. > >> > >> > 2. Improve documentation. > >> > >> Project documentation is important, but from a community perspective, it > >> is more important to have all processes documented well: how to > contribute, > >> how to merge, notes for first time committers, how to cut a release, > check > >> licenses. > Yup. We have setup a guide for developers and committers: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DL/Developer+Guide https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DL/Committer+Guide They are linked under the community tab in http://distributedlog.incubator.apache.org/ > We need to make sure all this is in place once we suggest > >> graduation. > >> > >> > >> > 3. First Apache release > >> > >> When is the first release due? it would be good for this community to > >> release sooner rather later. I'd expect multiple releases upon > graduation. > >> I think I'd just say "Release successfully". > Or "Multiple successful releases" > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be > >> aware > >> > > >> > of? > >> > > >> > None > >> > > >> > How has the community developed since the last report? > >> > > >> > 1. Increase in contributions from community. > >> > > >> > >> How do we measure this? Here are a few suggestions: > >> > >> - Number of messages to the list > >> - Number of jiras created/resolved > >> - Number of individual contributors > Jia, I think you can collect - number of messages by checking http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-distributedlog-dev/ - number of jiras by filtering jira queue - number of individual contributors : probably by looking at the number of contributors at github? > >> > >> > 2. Lots of engagement on documentation. > >> > > >> > >> What are you using to determine this? Mailing list discussion or jira? > >> > >> There are other interesting threads going on too, like transactions and > >> event sourcing. > I think pull requests can be used for counting this. > >> > >> > 3. Improved responsiveness of committers to community members > >> > > >> > >> I'd phrase this differently. I'd say something like: > >> > >> Increased traffic on the mailing list, in particular, due to committers > >> engaging more actively with contributors. > >> > >> > > >> > How has the project developed since the last report? > >> > > >> > 1. Documentation has improved for project build and project > deployment. > >> > Added more information on community page. > >> > > >> > >> Please try to be a bit more specific. > >> > >> > 2. Involved more discussion of new ideas and bring in new features. > >> Include > >> > major discussions like 'transaction support', 'batch commit' .etc. > >> > >> Ok, I see you talked about other threads here. > >> > >> > > >> > 3. First release and repackaging of the project under apache namespace > >> are > >> > > >> > being discussed, such as: > >> > > >> > - Pull requests for repackaging. > >> > > >> > - Twitter folks are working on porting twitter's bk version back to > >> > community > >> > >> It is a bit unclear why this is important, and I'd again avoid referring > >> to a specific company if possible. > >> > >> If there is a major change happening and the community is all involved, > >> then I'd mention it, but as stated it sounds like this is relevant to > the > >> BookKeeper community, although it affects this community because of the > >> dependency. > Currently distributedlog relies on some major changes made in twitter's bookkeeper branch, such as long poll read support, parallel recovery, delay ensemble change and such. we are working on merging those changes back. > >> > >> > > >> > - Expect to cut a release on Nov. > >> > >> We should mention this above when we refer to the first release. I'd > also > >> be interested in knowing why the delay, what is holding it, and who is > the > >> release manager. We don't necessarily need to add it to the report, > >> although more detail isn't bad. > The major blocker is https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DL-2. We were expecting to let DL depends on an official bk version rather than a version from twitter's branch. > >> > >> -Flavio > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Flavio Junqueira <f...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi Jia, > >> >> > >> >> I'd suggest that you put a draft together and share on the list so > >> that we > >> >> can comment before posting on the wiki. > >> >> > >> >> -Flavio > >> >> > >> >>> On 27 Oct 2016, at 16:44, Jia Zhai <zhaiji...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Hi Guys, > >> >>> If there is an opportunity, I would like to have a try for this > >> month. :) > >> >>> > >> >>> Thanks a lot. > >> >>> -Jia > >> >>> > >> >>> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 7:01 AM, <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >> > > >
