The lost report for DistributedLog has been added back. Thanks for taking care of it. :)
On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 7:04 AM, Sijie Guo <sij...@twitter.com.invalid> wrote: > Thanks John. > > Jia, can you help readd the report? > > - Sijie > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 3:14 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > All, > > > > Apologies. Infra had to migrate moin-moin and in doing so, some of the > > recent data was lost. Please readd your report. > > > > John > > > > On 2016-11-02 09:22 (-0400), Flavio Junqueira <f...@apache.org> wrote: > > > +1 > > > > > > > On 02 Nov 2016, at 09:22, Khurrum Nasim <khurrumnas...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > +1 from me (non-binding). > > > > > > > > - KN > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 7:18 PM, Jia Zhai <zhaiji...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > >> Thanks so much for your suggestions. Here is a new draft: > > > >> > > > >> =========== > > > >> DistributedLog > > > >> > > > >> DistributedLog is a high-performance replicated log service. It > offers > > > >> durability, replication and strong consistency, which provides a > > > >> fundamental building block for building reliable distributed > systems. > > > >> DistributedLog has been incubating since 2016-06-24. > > > >> > > > >> Three most important issues to address in the move towards > graduation: > > > >> 1.Continue to grow the community, and increase diversity of > community. > > > >> 2.Improve documentation, including documentation of project and > > processes. > > > >> 3.Successful releases. > > > >> > > > >> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to > be > > aware > > > >> of? > > > >> None > > > >> > > > >> How has the community developed since the last report? > > > >> 1. Increase in contributions from community. > > > >> - 8 created and 4 resolved issues in community JIRA in October. > > > >> 2. Lots of engagement on documentation. > > > >> - Enhance existing documents, > > > >> - Setup guides for developers and committers. > > > >> 3. Increased traffic on the mailing list, in particular, due to > > committers > > > >> engaging more actively with contributors. > > > >> - we have 35 people subscribed mail list. > > > >> - 125 messages to distributedlog mail list in October. > > > >> > > > >> How has the project developed since the last report? > > > >> 1. Documentation has improved for project build and project > > deployment. > > > >> Added more information on community page. > > > >> New added pages: > > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DL/Developer+Guide > > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DL/Committer+Guide > > > >> 2. Involved more discussion of new ideas and bring in new features. > > Include > > > >> major discussions like 'transaction support', 'batch commit', > > "EventStore" > > > >> . etc. > > > >> 3. First release expected on November, and repackaging of the > project > > under > > > >> apache namespace are being discussed. > > > >> - Pull requests for repackaging. > > > >> - The major blocker is https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DL-2. > > We were > > > >> expecting to let DL depends on an official bk version. > > > >> > > > >> ================ > > > >> > > > >> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Sijie Guo <si...@apache.org> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Thank you Jia and Flavio. Comments inline. > > > >>> > > > >>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 1:54 AM, Jia Zhai <zhaiji...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> Hi Sijie, > > > >>>> Would you please help address some of Flavio's comments first, You > > may > > > >>> have > > > >>>> more information for story behind the result. I would like to > handle > > > >> this > > > >>>> after your comments. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Thanks a lot. > > > >>>> -Jia > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jia Zhai <zhaiji...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> Thanks a lot for your comments, will address them and post a new > > > >> draft. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Flavio Junqueira < > > > >>>>> fpjunque...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Thanks, Jia. It would be good to have concrete metrics where > > > >> possible. > > > >>>>>> See my comments below: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 10:53, Jia Zhai <zhaiji...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Thanks a lot for your suggestions Flavio. > > > >>>>>>> And Guys, Here is a draft. Please help comments on it. > > > >>>>>>> Regards. > > > >>>>>>> -Jia > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> ===================================== > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> DistributedLog > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> DistributedLog is a high-performance replicated log service. It > > > >>> offers > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> durability, replication and strong consistency, which provides > a > > > >>>>>> fundamental > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> building block for building reliable distributed systems. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> DistributedLog has been incubating since 2016-06-24. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Three most important issues to address in the move towards > > > >>> graduation: > > > >>>>>>> 1. Continue to grow the community, especially people from > > > >>>> outside > > > >>>>>>> Twitter. > > > >>>>>>> [Ask the PMC for helping check the number of people subscribed > to > > > >>> dev@ > > > >>>>>> mail > > > >>>>>>> list] > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> I think you're referring to the project PMC checking the > > > >> subscription > > > >>>>>> list. I checked and we have 35 people subscribed. A lot of > people > > > >> have > > > >>>>>> gmail and apache.org <http://apache.org/> addresses so it is > hard > > > >> to > > > >>>>>> tell affiliation. One typical sign of community diversity is to > > have > > > >>>> active > > > >>>>>> committers from multiple organizations, which is just a natural > > > >>>> extension > > > >>>>>> of a diverse community. As folks contribute to the project, I'd > > > >> expect > > > >>>> the > > > >>>>>> PPMC to offer committership to the contributors. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Please do not refer to Twitter specifically, just say that we > want > > > >> to > > > >>>>>> increase diversity. > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Agreed. We should just say that we want to increase diversity. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> 2. Improve documentation. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Project documentation is important, but from a community > > > >> perspective, > > > >>> it > > > >>>>>> is more important to have all processes documented well: how to > > > >>>> contribute, > > > >>>>>> how to merge, notes for first time committers, how to cut a > > release, > > > >>>> check > > > >>>>>> licenses. > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Yup. We have setup a guide for developers and committers: > > > >>> > > > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DL/Developer+Guide > > > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DL/Committer+Guide > > > >>> > > > >>> They are linked under the community tab in > > > >>> http://distributedlog.incubator.apache.org/ > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> We need to make sure all this is in place once we suggest > > > >>>>>> graduation. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> 3. First Apache release > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> When is the first release due? it would be good for this > community > > > >> to > > > >>>>>> release sooner rather later. I'd expect multiple releases upon > > > >>>> graduation. > > > >>>>>> I think I'd just say "Release successfully". > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Or "Multiple successful releases" > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need > > to > > > >>> be > > > >>>>>> aware > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> of? > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> None > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> How has the community developed since the last report? > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> 1. Increase in contributions from community. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> How do we measure this? Here are a few suggestions: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> - Number of messages to the list > > > >>>>>> - Number of jiras created/resolved > > > >>>>>> - Number of individual contributors > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Jia, > > > >>> > > > >>> I think you can collect > > > >>> > > > >>> - number of messages by checking > > > >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator- > > distributedlog-dev/ > > > >>> - number of jiras by filtering jira queue > > > >>> - number of individual contributors : probably by looking at the > > number > > > >> of > > > >>> contributors at github? > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> 2. Lots of engagement on documentation. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> What are you using to determine this? Mailing list discussion or > > > >> jira? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> There are other interesting threads going on too, like > > transactions > > > >>> and > > > >>>>>> event sourcing. > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> I think pull requests can be used for counting this. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> 3. Improved responsiveness of committers to community members > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> I'd phrase this differently. I'd say something like: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Increased traffic on the mailing list, in particular, due to > > > >>> committers > > > >>>>>> engaging more actively with contributors. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> How has the project developed since the last report? > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> 1. Documentation has improved for project build and project > > > >>>> deployment. > > > >>>>>>> Added more information on community page. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Please try to be a bit more specific. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> 2. Involved more discussion of new ideas and bring in new > > > >> features. > > > >>>>>> Include > > > >>>>>>> major discussions like 'transaction support', 'batch commit' > > .etc. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Ok, I see you talked about other threads here. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> 3. First release and repackaging of the project under apache > > > >>> namespace > > > >>>>>> are > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> being discussed, such as: > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> - Pull requests for repackaging. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> - Twitter folks are working on porting twitter's bk version > back > > > >> to > > > >>>>>>> community > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> It is a bit unclear why this is important, and I'd again avoid > > > >>> referring > > > >>>>>> to a specific company if possible. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> If there is a major change happening and the community is all > > > >>> involved, > > > >>>>>> then I'd mention it, but as stated it sounds like this is > relevant > > > >> to > > > >>>> the > > > >>>>>> BookKeeper community, although it affects this community because > > of > > > >>> the > > > >>>>>> dependency. > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Currently distributedlog relies on some major changes made in > > twitter's > > > >>> bookkeeper branch, such as long poll read support, parallel > recovery, > > > >> delay > > > >>> ensemble change and such. we are working on merging those changes > > back. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> - Expect to cut a release on Nov. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> We should mention this above when we refer to the first release. > > I'd > > > >>>> also > > > >>>>>> be interested in knowing why the delay, what is holding it, and > > who > > > >> is > > > >>>> the > > > >>>>>> release manager. We don't necessarily need to add it to the > > report, > > > >>>>>> although more detail isn't bad. > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> The major blocker is https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DL-2. > We > > were > > > >>> expecting to let DL depends on an official bk version rather than a > > > >> version > > > >>> from twitter's branch. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> -Flavio > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Flavio Junqueira < > > > >> f...@apache.org> > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Hi Jia, > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> I'd suggest that you put a draft together and share on the > list > > > >> so > > > >>>>>> that we > > > >>>>>>>> can comment before posting on the wiki. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> -Flavio > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> On 27 Oct 2016, at 16:44, Jia Zhai <zhaiji...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Hi Guys, > > > >>>>>>>>> If there is an opportunity, I would like to have a try for > this > > > >>>>>> month. :) > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot. > > > >>>>>>>>> -Jia > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 7:01 AM, <johndam...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
