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John On 2016-11-02 09:22 (-0400), Flavio Junqueira <f...@apache.org> wrote: > +1 > > > On 02 Nov 2016, at 09:22, Khurrum Nasim <khurrumnas...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > +1 from me (non-binding). > > > > - KN > > > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 7:18 PM, Jia Zhai <zhaiji...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Thanks so much for your suggestions. Here is a new draft: > >> > >> =========== > >> DistributedLog > >> > >> DistributedLog is a high-performance replicated log service. It offers > >> durability, replication and strong consistency, which provides a > >> fundamental building block for building reliable distributed systems. > >> DistributedLog has been incubating since 2016-06-24. > >> > >> Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation: > >> 1.Continue to grow the community, and increase diversity of community. > >> 2.Improve documentation, including documentation of project and processes. > >> 3.Successful releases. > >> > >> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be aware > >> of? > >> None > >> > >> How has the community developed since the last report? > >> 1. Increase in contributions from community. > >> - 8 created and 4 resolved issues in community JIRA in October. > >> 2. Lots of engagement on documentation. > >> - Enhance existing documents, > >> - Setup guides for developers and committers. > >> 3. Increased traffic on the mailing list, in particular, due to committers > >> engaging more actively with contributors. > >> - we have 35 people subscribed mail list. > >> - 125 messages to distributedlog mail list in October. > >> > >> How has the project developed since the last report? > >> 1. Documentation has improved for project build and project deployment. > >> Added more information on community page. > >> New added pages: > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DL/Developer+Guide > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DL/Committer+Guide > >> 2. Involved more discussion of new ideas and bring in new features. Include > >> major discussions like 'transaction support', 'batch commit', "EventStore" > >> . etc. > >> 3. First release expected on November, and repackaging of the project under > >> apache namespace are being discussed. > >> - Pull requests for repackaging. > >> - The major blocker is https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DL-2. We were > >> expecting to let DL depends on an official bk version. > >> > >> ================ > >> > >> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Sijie Guo <si...@apache.org> wrote: > >> > >>> Thank you Jia and Flavio. Comments inline. > >>> > >>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 1:54 AM, Jia Zhai <zhaiji...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi Sijie, > >>>> Would you please help address some of Flavio's comments first, You may > >>> have > >>>> more information for story behind the result. I would like to handle > >> this > >>>> after your comments. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks a lot. > >>>> -Jia > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Jia Zhai <zhaiji...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Thanks a lot for your comments, will address them and post a new > >> draft. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Flavio Junqueira < > >>>>> fpjunque...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks, Jia. It would be good to have concrete metrics where > >> possible. > >>>>>> See my comments below: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 10:53, Jia Zhai <zhaiji...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks a lot for your suggestions Flavio. > >>>>>>> And Guys, Here is a draft. Please help comments on it. > >>>>>>> Regards. > >>>>>>> -Jia > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ===================================== > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> DistributedLog > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> DistributedLog is a high-performance replicated log service. It > >>> offers > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> durability, replication and strong consistency, which provides a > >>>>>> fundamental > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> building block for building reliable distributed systems. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> DistributedLog has been incubating since 2016-06-24. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Three most important issues to address in the move towards > >>> graduation: > >>>>>>> 1. Continue to grow the community, especially people from > >>>> outside > >>>>>>> Twitter. > >>>>>>> [Ask the PMC for helping check the number of people subscribed to > >>> dev@ > >>>>>> mail > >>>>>>> list] > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I think you're referring to the project PMC checking the > >> subscription > >>>>>> list. I checked and we have 35 people subscribed. A lot of people > >> have > >>>>>> gmail and apache.org <http://apache.org/> addresses so it is hard > >> to > >>>>>> tell affiliation. One typical sign of community diversity is to have > >>>> active > >>>>>> committers from multiple organizations, which is just a natural > >>>> extension > >>>>>> of a diverse community. As folks contribute to the project, I'd > >> expect > >>>> the > >>>>>> PPMC to offer committership to the contributors. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Please do not refer to Twitter specifically, just say that we want > >> to > >>>>>> increase diversity. > >>>> > >>> > >>> Agreed. We should just say that we want to increase diversity. > >>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> 2. Improve documentation. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Project documentation is important, but from a community > >> perspective, > >>> it > >>>>>> is more important to have all processes documented well: how to > >>>> contribute, > >>>>>> how to merge, notes for first time committers, how to cut a release, > >>>> check > >>>>>> licenses. > >>>> > >>> > >>> Yup. We have setup a guide for developers and committers: > >>> > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DL/Developer+Guide > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DL/Committer+Guide > >>> > >>> They are linked under the community tab in > >>> http://distributedlog.incubator.apache.org/ > >>> > >>> > >>>> We need to make sure all this is in place once we suggest > >>>>>> graduation. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> 3. First Apache release > >>>>>> > >>>>>> When is the first release due? it would be good for this community > >> to > >>>>>> release sooner rather later. I'd expect multiple releases upon > >>>> graduation. > >>>>>> I think I'd just say "Release successfully". > >>>> > >>> > >>> Or "Multiple successful releases" > >>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to > >>> be > >>>>>> aware > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> of? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> None > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> How has the community developed since the last report? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 1. Increase in contributions from community. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> How do we measure this? Here are a few suggestions: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> - Number of messages to the list > >>>>>> - Number of jiras created/resolved > >>>>>> - Number of individual contributors > >>>> > >>> > >>> Jia, > >>> > >>> I think you can collect > >>> > >>> - number of messages by checking > >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-distributedlog-dev/ > >>> - number of jiras by filtering jira queue > >>> - number of individual contributors : probably by looking at the number > >> of > >>> contributors at github? > >>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> 2. Lots of engagement on documentation. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> What are you using to determine this? Mailing list discussion or > >> jira? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There are other interesting threads going on too, like transactions > >>> and > >>>>>> event sourcing. > >>>> > >>> > >>> I think pull requests can be used for counting this. > >>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> 3. Improved responsiveness of committers to community members > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'd phrase this differently. I'd say something like: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Increased traffic on the mailing list, in particular, due to > >>> committers > >>>>>> engaging more actively with contributors. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> How has the project developed since the last report? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 1. Documentation has improved for project build and project > >>>> deployment. > >>>>>>> Added more information on community page. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Please try to be a bit more specific. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> 2. Involved more discussion of new ideas and bring in new > >> features. > >>>>>> Include > >>>>>>> major discussions like 'transaction support', 'batch commit' .etc. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Ok, I see you talked about other threads here. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 3. First release and repackaging of the project under apache > >>> namespace > >>>>>> are > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> being discussed, such as: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - Pull requests for repackaging. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - Twitter folks are working on porting twitter's bk version back > >> to > >>>>>>> community > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It is a bit unclear why this is important, and I'd again avoid > >>> referring > >>>>>> to a specific company if possible. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If there is a major change happening and the community is all > >>> involved, > >>>>>> then I'd mention it, but as stated it sounds like this is relevant > >> to > >>>> the > >>>>>> BookKeeper community, although it affects this community because of > >>> the > >>>>>> dependency. > >>>> > >>> > >>> Currently distributedlog relies on some major changes made in twitter's > >>> bookkeeper branch, such as long poll read support, parallel recovery, > >> delay > >>> ensemble change and such. we are working on merging those changes back. > >>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - Expect to cut a release on Nov. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> We should mention this above when we refer to the first release. I'd > >>>> also > >>>>>> be interested in knowing why the delay, what is holding it, and who > >> is > >>>> the > >>>>>> release manager. We don't necessarily need to add it to the report, > >>>>>> although more detail isn't bad. > >>>> > >>> > >>> The major blocker is https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DL-2. We were > >>> expecting to let DL depends on an official bk version rather than a > >> version > >>> from twitter's branch. > >>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -Flavio > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Flavio Junqueira < > >> f...@apache.org> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi Jia, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I'd suggest that you put a draft together and share on the list > >> so > >>>>>> that we > >>>>>>>> can comment before posting on the wiki. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -Flavio > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 27 Oct 2016, at 16:44, Jia Zhai <zhaiji...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi Guys, > >>>>>>>>> If there is an opportunity, I would like to have a try for this > >>>>>> month. :) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot. > >>>>>>>>> -Jia > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 7:01 AM, <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >
